Letters posted here are associated with the following Salon Premium Member:

John Anderson

Published Letters: 2434
Editor's Choice: 11

Saturday, February 23, 2008 08:50 PM

Will Hillary Torture?

Clinton was similarly vague about how she would handle special interrogation methods used by the CIA. She said that while she does not condone torture, so much has been kept secret that she would not know unless elected what other extreme measures interrogators are using, and therefore could not say whether she would change or continue existing policies.

- Washington Post online, 2-23-2008

Instead of allowing this President - or any President - to decide what does and does not constitute torture, we could have left the definition up to our own laws and to the Geneva Conventions, as we would have if we passed the bill that the Armed Services committee originally offered.

- Barack Obama, Statement on the Military Commission Legislation, 9-28-2008

Saturday, February 23, 2008 09:00 PM

correction

Sen. Obama's statement was made in 2006.

Saturday, February 23, 2008 09:17 PM

It Takes a Village of Village Idiots

During her promotional tour for the book, Clinton said, "I actually wrote the book ... I had to write my own book because I want to stand by every word."

-Wikipedia

Saturday, February 23, 2008 09:37 PM

Well AKA...

usually, it goes like this:

My Very Important Book, by Hillary Clinton

with Mary Nobody

But she left off Mary! Hey, where's that gender solidarity? Not to mention just following normal practices for a ghostwritten book.

Saturday, February 23, 2008 10:15 PM

AKA

Since neither of us seems to have a copy of the contract, I'll assume that the ghostwriter was NOT supposed to be given credit.

Clinton still talked about the book as if she wrote it completely herself. In fact, she made a particular point of saying this explicitly. In my OPINION, this reflects in a NEGATIVE way on her as a PERSON.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND NOW?

Saturday, February 23, 2008 10:39 PM

a poem for DeeperTruth by Maya Angelou

State Package for Hillary Clinton

You may write me down in history

With your bitter, twisted lies,

You may tread me in the very dirt

But still, like dust, I'll rise.

This is not the first time you have seen Hillary Clinton seemingly at her wits' end, but she has always risen, always risen, don't forget she has always risen, much to the dismay of her adversaries and the delight of her friends.

Hillary Clinton will not give up on you and all she asks of you is that you do not give up on her.

There is a world of difference between being a woman and being an old female. If you're born a girl, grow up, and live long enough, you can become an old female. But to become a woman is a serious matter. A woman takes responsibility for the time she takes up and the space she occupies. Hillary Clinton is a woman. She has been there and done that and has still risen. She is in this race for the long haul. She intends to make a difference in our country. Hillary Clinton intends to help our country to be what it can become.

She declares she wants to see more smiles in the family, more courtesies between men and women, more honesty in the marketplace. She is the prayer of every woman and man who longs for fair play, healthy families, good schools, and a balanced economy.

She means to rise.

Don't give up on Hillary. In fact, if you help her to rise, you will rise with her and help her make this country the wonderful, wonderful place where every man and every woman can live freely without sanctimonious piety and without crippling fear.

Rise, Hillary.

Rise.

Sunday, February 24, 2008 12:54 AM

@english teacher

However, to debase/deny/dismiss/discredit/downplay Sen. Clinton's accomplishments as "her husband's", and to completely deny her long record of accomplishments is absolutely debasing and completely without merit.

I'm only debasing/denying/discrediting/downplaying Sen. Clinton's experience during Bill's presidency, not her other experience. The First Lady is not an elected official...I don't believe she had security clearance, she wasn't at the meetings etc.

You subtly misrepresent people's arguments...sophisticated, feminist garbage is still garbage.

Sunday, February 24, 2008 09:20 AM

"Sadly, you have just proved my point about so-called "progressive" men."

You've proven my point about the supporters of so-called "progressive" candidates.

Look, the Clinton years were good economically...there was a long tech boom, and he didn't waste our money on a big war. But progressive?

Nafta, Don't Ask Don't Tell, expansion of the death penalty, the Defense of Marriage Act, Extraordinary Rendition (yes, it started under Clinton), the widening gap between the rich and the poor, a criminally passive-aggressive foreign policy...and his wife is in the back pocket of the insurance industry.

Just look at her heath care plan...cribbed from Romney, the "progressive".

You can call me sexist if it make you feel better about any of this.

Sunday, February 24, 2008 10:10 AM

Anyone but Obama?

Then it's either Hillary or McCain.

If you don't want to join the campfire, that's your business...go over to the pile of burning truck tires.

Sunday, February 24, 2008 10:40 AM

smoking gun...not

“Sen. Obama strongly condemns the violent actions of the Weathermen group, as he does all acts of violence,” said Obama’s press secretary, Bill Burton. “But he was an 8-year-old child when Ayers and the Weathermen were active, and any attempt to connect Obama with events of almost 40 years ago is ridiculous.”

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8630_Page2.html

Sunday, February 24, 2008 10:53 AM

try again anon

There have been no allegations that Obama, whose political fortunes are soaring as he mulls a run for president, broke the law or committed any ethics violations. He said he has done no government business with Rezko, who is facing charges in two unrelated criminal cases.

- washingtonpost.com, 12-17-2006

Sunday, February 24, 2008 11:18 AM

hey anon here are your "facts"

all the Sturm und Drang you could hope for:

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2008/02/23/hillary.speech.cnn

Sunday, February 24, 2008 11:21 AM

crooked personal real estate deal?

no ethics violations...no laws broken by Obama.

Sunday, February 24, 2008 12:56 PM

"...the mansion and land at such a knock-down price."

Only an issue if there were favors in return: beneficial legislation, or government contracts. But that wasn't the case.

Monday, February 25, 2008 08:26 PM
Original article: The dude vote

well...

I repeat my question why was it that when white men voted for Hillary it wasn't because they were white, but when they voted for Obama it was because they were men?

Probably nobody can answer your question, because nobody reading these letters has any actual data.

Most Active Letters Threads

516

The crazy, irrational beliefs of Muslims

Tom Friedman explains the real problem: stupid Muslims think the U.S. is about war and aggression.
426

A key British official reminds us of the forgotten anthrax attack

A vast array of establishment and expert sources do not believe this episode was really resolved.
370

The face of rotted Washington

Evan Bayh demands more debt-financed war - fought by others - while boasting that he's a stern "deficit hawk."
210

Is Obama's civil liberties record understandable?

Was it unreasonable to expect him to adhere to his commitments regarding the Constitution?
174

Bigotry wins in Switzerland

By voting to ban the construction of minarets, Switzerland apes the most extreme intolerance in the Muslim world

View all »

Letters Help

Currently in Salon