Letters to the Editor
John Anderson
Published Letters: 494 Editor's Choice: 6
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the horror of plagarism
[Read the article: Obama's borrowed words]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]Apparently, Sen. Obama has recently plagarized part of a speech from a political ally.
In other news, the online magazine Slate had an article today about the Myers-Briggs personality types of the candidates. Surprise, McCain is the same type as Bush Jr! Sen. Clinton is like Truman. And Obama is the same personality type as Gandhi.
Now, I suppose that Truman never plagarized part of a political speech. But he did drop a couple of nuclear bombs on civilians. Oh well.
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"It's about the damned plagiarism!"
[Read the article: Obama's borrowed words]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]Yes...the plagarism is about the plagarism. But the primaries are not about the plagarism. No, not really.
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Biden and plagiarism
[Read the article: Obama's borrowed words]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]Biden called the charges "much ado about nothing;"[58] it was also revealed that Biden had used and properly cited the Kinnock speech on several other occasions, although he failed to do so on the one instance recorded by the Dukakis campaign.[59] - wikipedia
Good thing we went with Dukakis!
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"considering the allegations that he is just reading the words of others from a Teleprompter"
[Read the article: Obama's borrowed words]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]The allegation is that he copied some of the words and delivery style from a particular section of a speech by a political friend.
The statement I have quoted from you is simply a slur.
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myiq2xu
[Read the article: Obama's borrowed words]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]It is not at all clear that the "allegations" are anything except your own opinions.
As for addressing the issue of plagiarism in political speechmaking...well, as far as I'm concerned, it's a non-issue.
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myiq2xu
[Read the article: Obama's borrowed words]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]The speed limit is 60. But everybody drives 65. Does that make it right?
Yes, it does.
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The prose stylings of Hillary Clinton
[Read the article: Obama's borrowed words]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]The rhetorical construction "I will be fine, but we should be concerned about whether the country will be fine" was very clearly borrowed from Edwards by Clinton's speechwriters.
The simplicity of the words themselves does not mean that the concept was not borrowed.
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"Add the imitative cadence to that and it looks quite the same on video."
[Read the article: Obama's borrowed words]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]I concede your point. Unfortunately, to me, Sen. Clinton has the "imitative cadence" of Hitler.
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anon
[Read the article: Hillary Clinton's Texas-size moment ]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]You are only repeating (mindlessly) one-half of the contested gramatical construction.
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Hillary Clinton being accused of plagiarism when she says "We're going to be fine"
[Read the article: Hillary Clinton's Texas-size moment ]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]To be absolutely precise, she is being accused of plagiarism for saying (paraphrased): "we're going to be fine, but is the country going to be fine?"
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"The time is NOW to elect a woman"
[Read the article: Hillary Clinton's Texas-size moment ]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]Yesterday there was an article in Slate about the personality types of the candidates. Sen. Clinton is the same type as Truman, and Bush the First. Obama is the same type as Gandhi.
Clinton is just The Same Old Thing, regardless of her gender. Obama is a personality type we have not yet seen leading this country.
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"We are going to be fine" is something people say all the time
[Read the article: Hillary Clinton's Texas-size moment ]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]She said "we are going to be fine, but is the country going to be fine," or words to that effect. That is the plagiarism, not the abbreviated version that numerous people mis-quote over and over.
I'll still vote for Clinton if she somehow wins the nomination, but I have no enthusiasm for all her weird junk.
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the Problem with Hillary
[Read the article: Hillary Clinton's Texas-size moment ]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]Her party might not nominate her.
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@anon
[Read the article: Hillary Clinton's Texas-size moment ]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]So you won't vote for Obama out of spite? Or WILL vote, for McCain? That's brilliant.
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@AKA
[Read the article: Hillary Clinton's Texas-size moment ]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]The phrase in question is a unique rhetorical contruction...although it's somewhat trite, and uses small words, it's also memorable...it's not inconceivable that someone would want to quote it.
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"anonymous Hillary supporters"
[Read the article: Hillary Clinton's Texas-size moment ]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]These liars are just part of the right wing slander machine. Expect more of the same as Obama moves ahead in the coming months.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ7Cs3QvT3U&feature=bz301
[Read the article: Hillary Clinton's Texas-size moment ]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]One of them is the real thing.
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@AKA
[Read the article: Hillary Clinton's Texas-size moment ]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]the passage
We are fine,
But is the country fine?
was copied in two ways: first, the concepts (self, country, fineness), second, the technique (parallelism). Some other words were changed to avoid recreating the bit verbatim.
The YouTube clip is the same sort of deal.
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but AKA...
[Read the article: Hillary Clinton's Texas-size moment ]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]HILLARY IS A COPYCAT!
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ok AKA
[Read the article: Hillary Clinton's Texas-size moment ]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]make sure you explain that to everyone who watches the YouTube clip.
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we just don't get it
[Read the article: Hillary Clinton's Texas-size moment ]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]Obama is a plagiarist. "Hillary" is recontextualizing the sentiments of caring and sharing.
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AKA
[Read the article: Hillary Clinton's Texas-size moment ]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]I'm not that concerned about Sen. Obama's potential performance in your english class.
The issue here is really not your attitude towards plagiarism. It is more about Sen. Clinton making it an issue in the debate...and then skirting on the edge of plagiarism herself. It was a dumb tactic, and it's biting her on the ass in the form of that YouTube clip.
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more plagiarism
[Read the article: Hillary Clinton's Texas-size moment ]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]General Franco: We have nothing to fear but bills.
"Hillary": We have nothing to eat, Bill.
R. Nixon: Burn the tapes!
"Hillary": I am burning my bra.
Quentin Tarintino: Can we get more blood?
"Hillary": I hear the new guy is a blood.
There's more, but you get the idea.
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"It appears that a clearly qualified woman is being pushed aside for a totally unqualified man."
[Read the article: Hillary Clinton's Texas-size moment ]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]They're both senators, as is McCain. However, McCain and Obama were never married to a president. Is that a "qualification"?
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well...
[Read the article: Hillary Clinton's Texas-size moment ]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]...maybe the problem here is McCain supporters posing as Clinton "defenders". Online, nobody can see the color of your shirt!
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"...we aren't even allowed to have a discussion about it."
[Read the article: Hillary Clinton's Texas-size moment ]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]What country are you living in?
If Sen. Clinton were a true feminist she wouldn't be running on her husband's record. Then we would be left with:
-a certain amount of Democratic Party activism
-a failed attempt to pass health care reform as First Lady
-a not particularly distinguished record in the senate
Sorry, this doesn't do much for me.
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"because he has no record at all"
[Read the article: Hillary Clinton's Texas-size moment ]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]be honest yourself
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"Stop trying to tell women who they are supposed to be"
[Read the article: Hillary Clinton's Texas-size moment ]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]Hillary is painting a picture...but it's no sale for me.
Feminism is more than being pro-choice, and having the correct genitalia. She's counting her time as First Lady relevant experience for the presidency...not the actions of an independent woman.
There would be no Hillary candidacy without a Bill presidency.
Hey, my dad was in the Navy...does that mean I was in the Navy? No, it doesn't.
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@ljwalker53
[Read the article: Hillary Clinton's Texas-size moment ]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]There are women in politics who run on their own merits; Sen. Feinstein comes to mind. But Sen. Clinton would be dead in the water without the Billary branding.
BTW...the poster I was responding to basically said Obama has no qualifications at all.
Speaking of "women's and children's issues": what did the Iraq sanctions do for the women and children in Iraq? Oh, I forgot...Hillary "wrote" a cool book...it looks good on the resume...
In Rwanda, it "took a village" to commit genocide...but of course all the policy wonks decided that there was nothing we could have done. Did Hillary miss those meetings?