And who are "the converted" anyhow?

Left-leaning libertarians, libertarian-leaning leftists, constitutionalists, anti-authoritarians...all the people who are pure and true and convinced that they are right. the ones who can't win elections because they can't integrate their ideas with the larger society.

i had great hopes when my namesake ran for president. others have had great hopes for Ron Paul, and Obama. and you have great hopes for GG. however the brittle and yes SHRILL response to the "trolls" and others here who raise their little objections do not leave me feeling the love. and of course who cares about that because Glenn is The Most Successful Blogger Ever We Think.

Now that you've said it twice, there is a disagreement with how your using a comparison of apples and oranges has any relevancy.

Thank you for pointing that out.

Sort of like the viewpoint that torture is OK if it works--it isn't, even if it theoretically worked, which it doesn't, except to extract the precise "confession" the torturer wants to elicit.

Sorry to interrupt but this was a discussion about GG and his audience, not torture. but i will take the GG loyalty oath anyway:

I believe that torture is wrong.

Also, I never said that the internet audience is "crap". You're just projecting.

i think all future postings to this blog should be formatted as a giant FAQ in rhetorical-question format.

Nice sidestep of the issue, Fred Astaire.

Mr. Greenwald should consider moderating his views slightly.

For example, if a fellow media person wants an email kept secret, and it isn't the next Watergate, maybe he should consider keeping it secret. just consider it.

this would be in the interest of networking within the media community.

you are so intent on making me look stupid that you aren't paying quite enough attention to not making yourself look stupid.

the planet where idiots trade torture for health care is the planet where you have placed me...oh well.

i get more hits here, stupid.

GG suggested I have no basis for making statements about his audience size...so I presented some figures. My presentation was discredited. Since "shrill" is a troll codeword perhaps I should have said "intense" or something like that.

My point is that GG could compromise a little on things like journalistic email priviledges and maybe get a couple rungs up the exposure ladder. not because I love Glenn but because I would like to see a wider range of opinion on tv.

However it is impossible because GG doesn't do that, and he's making inroads his own way anyhow. fine.

where are you from?

you seem kind of bummed

i know you're not dumb

so why poetry about scum?

just take a Happy Pill

buy a Happy Meal

and join the CIA

like all happy americans

I heard that somewhere.

What can be so dreadfully indoctrinating about 'Work hard and stay in school?'

You see, all of my clients are liberals in industries generally run by liberals.

Headshops? Record stores?

but this one suits you best

what is the point of prolonging the suffering of botched abortions?

The point of the 'born alive' bill was simply to give minimal health care comforts to these unfortunate children during their brief, pitiful existence.

The point of the 'born alive' bill is to "childify" terminally damaged fetuses.

Some people have survived abortions, and lived to adulthood.

The goal of an abortion it to terminate the pregnancy, and the fetus. Therefore the medical resources of the abortion clinic should be used to that end.

"saving" the fetus from a botched abortion is just one small step from "saving" the fetus from an abortion entirely, which you well know is your real purpose.

they TALK TO GOD...they HEAR GOD...they KNOW GOD.

someone should do a movie about these guys!

If an entity in the womb is called a fetus, and an entity outside the womb is called a baby ...

I think the fetus/baby split is mostly about the level of development, not inside/outside.

Would you call a fetus outside the womb - a viable fetus - a baby?

I think this kind of entity is either called "a very premature baby" or "a botched abortion".

I'm not a lawyer or doctor either and so I have no idea if one can legally continue an abortion on a premature baby/fetus.

Virtue001, the Republican answer to your problem is that individuals should have a free choice to either employ or work for whoever they want. So there is no problem here...you just need to quit, and find another industry.

Ironically, a leftist would agree that you are being treated unfairly...and might suggest legal action in response to documented discrimination.

The fact that your employers are "liberals" but act in a discriminatory manner is beside the point. Labor laws apply to left and right alike.

Well, I do know a bit about what Virtue001 is talking about...for a few years I worked in a union media environment, where being a Republican was definitely frowned on. Although I don't remember anyone being fired over it.

While you might say that these people aren't liberals because they weren't displaying liberal values, the fact is most of them vote Democratic.

However I agree with you that Virtue sounds like he's exaggerating...

is god among us at last?

what are the voices saying?

not unlike Electro Robot

"most" Americans, both Democrat and Republican ---don't trust Obama anymore.

Do you have any poll data to back this up? And why are you putting "most" in quotation marks? Do you really mean "most PUMAs"?

The public option is not a radical left concept...England for example has public health care.

A radical left agenda would be something like nationalizing the oil industry, or abolishing private ownership of farmland.

You don't seem to know what you're talking about.

Real Clear Politics poll average

Approve 53.0

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/?state=noad

you've cherry-picked a low poll - hooray for you.