McCain's campaign is actually making Obama look better

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19374216/

just to put the sexual heroics of the article in perspective

I got the memo in my 20's by mistake...maybe it was meant for you.

it's over the top without really being over the top...they seem to be criticising Obama while at the same time being somewhat impressed by him.

i love getting 5 viagra ads in my mailbox every day...and seeing the unzipped pants on salon. oh my our culture certainly is sex-negative. damn those abstinence people.

During the early 1980's I was a student in Los Angeles and witnessed close-up that predatory and sociopathic dating scene. What I remember most was the heavy drinking and the sick feeling of failure at the end of the long, stupid parties. Clark-Flory's winners-eye view is definitely appealing, but the reality is that the losers do not couple up quite as easily...poor self esteem and even mental illness are actual possibilities in this area of the game.

What I really object to is not the idea that young women can ignore the religious kooks and have sex when they decide. It is rather this concept of the "cool kid's rules" that has begun to permeate the internet...that a young blogger somehow has more "cred" than a nurse, priest, or psychologist, just because they ARE a young blogger.

That is not to say I would give a priest very much credence on the topic of prematital sex. However if we are going to go by the word of somebody in the scene, we might want to think a bit more about exactly who that somebody is.

It's all standard politician behavior...the fact that some people are bothered much more by Obama than by McCain for similar stuff suggests to me that race is a factor.

Although my opinion is that McCain is worse...

racism or not

if you don't like the Obamatons here at Salon why don't you expand your horizons a bit:

http://www.blacksforobama.org/

you can turn it around...would half of these guys in congress be where they are if they were not white?

But then you start to see the the ridiculousness of the question...as if any of us could be separated from our own identity.

The first sexual experience part of the article sounded particularly Cosmo-worthy...switch the gender and then decide if it doesn't sound a bit over the top.

As I wrote in a later post, I was not objecting to promiscuous behavior per se. I just don't think that this writer is a very good source of sexual advice for the sort of 24-year-old who might be considering abstinence.

On the other hand, she IS a good source of advice for sexually successful 20-something yuppies in San Francisco.

Oh wait, they don't need any advice.

As far as I can tell, many of these people only want to "engage" so that they can repeat the same talking points over and over. One person has gone so far as to abandon dialog entirely...he just spams various threads with anti-Obama handbills.

I support gender and racial equality.

Really, some of my best friends are women ;-)

Well, this is going to sound weird, but they were all guys who I would have dated if I had met them under different circumstances.

Yes, it sounds weird.

might be expensive, though

is Obama a Vulcan or a Romulan?

but you might have to wait longer

however the article says nothing about how the results may or may not reflect eventual voting behavior. Shapiro implies that the effect will mean fewer votes.

But the "Obama Effect" may in fact be the very thing that eventually pushes him over 50% in the polls...phenomena that people are "sick of" are often those things that also become very popular.

what was that "hard working whites" stuff about? Just words, I guess.

My opinion is that you encourage these train-wreaks at least a little. The topic is new with each article but it always seems to be spun through some pre-existing condition that was never fully resolved earlier. So people take the opportunity to vent all over again.

use that second language to spice it up!

but did Mr. Krich talk to anybody while he was there?

very videodrome

When Obama came to Portland, the streets were very crowded and I ended up taking refuge in a hotel bar with a friend. The difference between inside and out was stark. Where I had previously been surrounded by people listening in rapt attention, I was now sitting among various business types who were practically sneering at the figure giving a speech on the tv.

When you see people driving around in $80K cars and then, on the same block, see people pushing around 4 ft tall mounds of cans on shopping carts, you wonder: will this last forever? Have we achieved some sort of perfectly balanced social order that requires constant tending by republicans? My guess is no.

clearly a cultural barrier

about 2/3 of the way through batman I became fatigued. The movie experience was no longer "fun" or "entertaining", or at least was no longer as fun or entertaining as it had been a few minutes earlier. It occurred to me that i could have bought a sandwich with the movie money instead. I was rooting for joker at this point.

- "soylent green" local food production system

- low carbon outdoor living coops

- fossil fuels limited to governmental and corporate users

- "greasers" for select private parties

ha ha just kidding

But taking revenge really isn't operating from the moral high ground either.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the idea here to convey "ouch"?

I don't need it...I'm not running.

The idea here is to vote for the candidate who better represents your interests. PUMA is anathema to this.

Obama, that is

Watch the speech.

Go Joe!

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