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Saturday, March 8, 2008 06:04 PM
Original article: Some free advice for Obama

@ignatius

<<you snidely attack fellow Democrats for worshipping a ‘myth,’ and then one someone else responds rudely to you come back and tell us that he made you cry. What a piece of work you are.>>

Yes, I can have a sharp keyboard at times, but if you can find a single instance of my assassinating another poster's character on this site, you're welcome to produce it. There's a huge difference between posting general criticisms of Obama and a very visible segment of his supporters, and going for another poster's throat, utilizing vicious slander.

<<You asked who Obama is and what he’s accomplished. I had my doubts as to the legitimacy of your inquiry – it didn’t seem like you really wanted an answer but I posted a lengthy post summarizing just a few accomplishments. Just as I figured – no response.>>

I apologize for not responding to your post. But I have read about Obama's accomplishments and to me, they're too little, too late. I just can't see where he's made any substantial difference for those who could've used the support.

<<Oh wait, you do have a response – because you don’t like some of Obama’s supporters, you don’t like Obama. So essentially, you don’t like Y, and Y likes X, so you don’t like X. That may be the most inane reason I’ve ever heard for not supporting someone – at least the dumbest reason since the last time someone posted as much, and that, too, was a Hillary supporter.>>

Now, you're being snide.

<<At least my opposition on Hillary is based on HER, and her votes in the Senate, and not anyone else.>>

My support for Hillary is based on her track record and my belief that she really does care about making a positive difference. Sure, she's a politician and has her downside, but I do believe her heart and philosophy are in the right place. I believe this about Bill Clinton, too. I simply don't believe it about Obama. This belief may not meet any rigorous intellectual criterion, but it is my belief and it is the result of not only a whole lot of living, but a lot of reading, too.

<<Obama is hardly responsible for the behavior of his tens of millions of supporters>>

Any leader's followers give us important clues about who s/he is and what s/he stands for. I simply have not seen the naked hatred which issues from so many Obama supporters issuing from Clinton supporters. And I've been doing one hell of a lot of reading message boards lately.

Saturday, March 8, 2008 05:44 PM
Original article: Some free advice for Obama

Now that you mention it, pantanal

I did have a chance to vote for David Duke in the 1990s. There was a popular bumper sticker in New Orleans back then which read, "Vote For the Crook - It's Important." And I did vote for the crook for Louisiana governor (Edwin Edwards, who's now in prison) because it WAS important. You see, I've lived what you can only preach about. I know who I am - and you don't.

Saturday, March 8, 2008 05:36 PM
Original article: Some free advice for Obama

Thank you, melthough

I will contact the editors. And I will respond to the posters you mentioned when I calm down. I just stopped in for a moment while working to post about mr. tom, because I foolishly let him get to me in the past couple of days. Then things went downhill from there. I simply cannot believe how upsetting and nasty this primary season has gotten...what a shame.

Saturday, March 8, 2008 05:05 PM
Original article: Some free advice for Obama

That does it, pantanal

You're right up in there in the pantheon of vile, along with mr. tom. You know, I began posting on salon.com because I thought I might learn something new while debating with what originally seemed like fairly intelligent folks. I now realize I've stumbled into what is too often a vipers nest of self-inflated, hypocritical, cultural snobs with shivs for tongues. This by no means applies to all those who post on this site, but it's happening too often for comfort, and it's practically guaranteeing I will never vote for Obama. The ugliness I've seen coming from his supporters has been simply stunning and it has left me in tears on more than one occasion. BTW, your acidic attempts to strip others of their dignity is quite telling. This is the hallmark of those who preach one thing and practice another. In other words, you're not a liberal, not in any sense of the word. You're a hypocrite.

Saturday, March 8, 2008 04:16 PM
Original article: Some free advice for Obama

Why tom payne is vile

What mr. tom has done is to conflate my screen name with a product called Kotex, a major brand name back in the 50s and 60s when he was a budding misogynist. Kotex may still be produced (I have no idea since, contrary to recent popular opinon, I'm not a grad student but rather the same age as Hillary Clinton). What is it? A sanitary napkin for girls and women to use during their menstrual periods. In its used state, Kotex was considered an object of disgust - unsanitary, dirty, repulsive, to be shunned.

Is it clear now why I find mr. tom a nasty SOB?

This message may constitute a new low for salon.com, but you can thank mr. tom for its appearance. And now back to work.

Saturday, March 8, 2008 12:07 PM
Original article: Some free advice for Obama

@reality-based

I'm sorry, but I got sidetracked with the silliness above. I will respond later, but I absolutely have to get dressed and do something other burn up the keyboard this afternoon. This site is far too seductive...

Saturday, March 8, 2008 12:04 PM
Original article: Some free advice for Obama

@KCM

Now you're being really, really willfully obtuse. Yes, black voters comprise an essential element of the traditional Democratic voter base. Yes, they are overwhelmingly voting for Barack Obama and not Hillary Clinton this time around. They have been voting for him ever since South Carolina, when the Clinton's became overnight racists. Therefore, I did not include blacks in my description of core Democrats who are voting for Hillary Clinton. She is only receiving a small percentage of black votes. Would you like me to clarify further? You're beating this to death. Fini. Onward.

Saturday, March 8, 2008 11:56 AM
Original article: Some free advice for Obama

@tompayne

You are vile and if there were a mechanism on this site to report abusive messages, I'd utilize it in a second. I simply cannot imagine what how awful it must be to live with someone like you in real time.

Saturday, March 8, 2008 11:53 AM
Original article: Some free advice for Obama

@KCM

Please take the blinders off. And yes, you were implying that, due to white myopia, I was oblivious to the presence of blacks in the traditional Democratic base, as did deloresflowers subsequently. I lived in New Orleans, by choice, for 30 years as a white minority. I daresay I'm probably better acquainted with political dynamics as they relate to black voters than 99.9% of those posting on this site. There were approximately three and a half black Republican voters in New Orleans. And I did notice.

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