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KateTex

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Sunday, May 4, 2008 09:45 PM

@meffert

If you can find a single post on this site in which I used Obama's middle name, you're more than welcome to produce it.

Sunday, May 4, 2008 09:51 PM

On the contrary, lateagain

"The problem, Kate, is that the statements and incidents listed in the memo came first."

The problem is that the 'statements' and 'incidents' were pushed and pulled and shaped and molded and twisted to suit a particular agenda, one obviously not of the Clintons' making, nor at all to their benefit.

Sunday, May 4, 2008 10:01 PM

@meffert

What's next - you're going to lift my autobiography from an oil stain on the garage floor? It's always a sign that argument deficit is setting in when Obamaites haul out the 'Republic black ops' IdentiKit.

Sunday, May 4, 2008 10:39 PM

@lateagain

I appreciate your long, good faith post. But it is late again and I'm really tired, so I'll just post a couple of thoughts here. You're right that I do take it on trust that the Clintons would not endorse using race as a wedge issue. This would fly in the face of everything I know about them vis a vis their intelligence, their beliefs, and their social ethics. And now I can't even remember what my other thought was. But thanks again for your message. Time to hit the hay!

Monday, May 5, 2008 10:09 AM

Maneuvering the black vote

So, has anybody broached the very strong possibility that the Obama campaign was successful in maneuvering the black vote towards its candidate by giving black voters a (mostly) guilt-free pretext for deserting Hillary Clinton, en masse and pretty much overnight? Ergo, characterizing her, and Bill and her entire campaign, as users of the black community. It would take the MSM to put this strategy over the top, and that's exactly what happened.

Monday, May 5, 2008 10:14 AM

Come on, Sarah

You are conveniently leaving out the difference in ages between the Clintons and the Obamas, not to mention the fact that the Clintons left the White House deeply in debt, and never having owned a house of their own. Obama is clearly every bit as ambitious for his own ends as Hillary Clinton, if not more so. Do you really believe that, upon leaving the White House, the Obamas don sack cloth, join the Peace Corps, and renounce a steady stream of speaking fees? Afraid not.

Monday, May 5, 2008 10:34 AM

@Ancient

The last paragraph of your post is more than a little poisonous. When do you start comprehending that words such as yours serve only to further alienate those who have already serious reservations about your candidate? There is something terribly wrong with a campaign which gives the green light to such unprecedented levels of vitriol.

Furthermore, I did not say, nor did I imply, that black voters aren't intelligent enough to reach their own conclusions. What I clearly said was that they were given an excuse to abandon Hillary Clinton's candidacy, and they took it.

Monday, May 5, 2008 11:50 AM

@deloresflower

"I wouldn't necessarily have thought this three or four months ago, but watching her campaign I'm appalled that the ONLY constituency she seems to actively court are those who are rural and white and who seem to buy her arguments about Obama being an out of touch elitist..."

Here you are being every bit as condescending as the Obama camp claims Hillary Clinton to be. And your perception is way off. I spend a fair amount of time on the Taylor Marsh site. Her site is peopled by a wide spectrum of voters - women, men, black, white, Hispanic, Asian, young, old, gays, straights, active and retired military, urban, rural, suburban, people from all over the country....and everyone gets along just fine. We actually enjoy ourselves over there. And there is absolutely no feeling that Hillary is courting only rural whites (in other words, potential racists). The Taylor Marsh site IS is the big Democratic tent which evades Obama and it's behind Hillary Clinton all the way.

Monday, May 5, 2008 08:07 PM

Thank you, NYShooter

Once again you've managed to address the heart of the truth with brevity, simplicity, clarity, and no B.S. I believe you mentioned not long ago that you emigrated to the U.S. from Russia and spent your adolescence with adoptive black parents whom you loved deeply. This certainly gives you an unusual perspective, not to mention solid credibility, in matters having to do with race. Thank you for speaking up.

Monday, May 5, 2008 08:38 PM

Burn, Hillary, burn

Tell you what: why don't y'all pool your resources, buy ten or so gallons of gas, tie Hillary Clinton to a stake somewhere in Denver, and burn her alive (with a trial first, of course, to prove once and for all she's a witch)? This could not only be a great fundraiser for the Democrats, it would solve the primary deadlock, and be a source of deep pleasure for many in the blogosphere. Count on Axelrod to bring the hot dogs and matches.

Monday, May 5, 2008 08:44 PM

@Celia - more hypocrisy

"You can't let your serogates [sic] go around saying racists things on your behalf and deny you had anything to do with it!"

This is exactly what Obama has done. A deep game, all right.

Monday, May 5, 2008 11:11 PM

It's official

Bed and circuses have won out. Somebody tell the superdelegates they're off the hook.

Tuesday, May 6, 2008 09:30 AM

@seamus - playing the numbers

Obama may be slightly, yes slightly, ahead in the numbers - if you discount FL & MI, but if you factor in those voters (and there are legions) who would not have voted for Obama had they known more about him, then Hillary would almost undoubtedly have won the game long before this. Nothing like sending up a too-late-vetted candidate as the Democratic nominee. Think of it as death by numbers, because that's exactly what this race is shaping up to be if Obama should end up outmaneuvering Hillary Clinton.

Tuesday, May 6, 2008 10:06 AM

Steal that goalpost

Okay, so let's just tell FL & MI voters they're out of the game, even though they paid full price for their tickets, expecting to take part in a football event mediated by time-honored refs. What's this? The tape has been rewound, the game has retro-morphed into ghost tennis, invitation only, and it shall forever remain scoreless? Too bad, FL & MI. Try not to be such spoilsports. After all, it's only a game.

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