Good post as usual Glenn. I hope this is something that people will pick up on, and really think about. I've had issues with Webb before, but I'll be very impressed if he keeps forcing this point.

"People love now to assume the role of super-sophisticated political consultant rather than a citizen demanding actions from their representatives." I think that might be the most accurate sentence I've seen you write, and perhaps the saddest as well.

Did your tongue poke a hole in your cheek? This post cracked me up, bad. This couldn't have happened to a nicer person.

The fact that this debate is even taking place speaks to just how much trouble America is in. If this country doesn't find itself morally, it's got no shot at getting past the upcoming obstacles.

Well said, Joan.

Perhaps you could have thrown the word socialist in the title, just to really send Rush into conniptions...the hypocrisy is, by this time, expected, but still amazing.

Jim White, thanks for the poll link. It makes an interesting point to think about, regarding the inability of people to examine their own thought processes. I wonder if those evangelicals would realize just how far from the christian ideals their view on torture is if it was pointed out to them?

I think she'd be pretty comfortable with the idea of torturing people. Brown people, anyway.

You're right. I just keep forgetting what the "good book" actually is. My bad.

That cartoon was fantastic.

The scenario is credible because he SAYS it is. Don't you get it yet?

Great post. Sarcasm becomes you.

I'm guessing someone's gonna go past this soon. If nothing else, recent history suggests a game of one-upmanship going on among politicians. My money's on Steele.

Love the sarcastic tone, btw.

That second paragraph is so illogical, only a Fool could have written it. Infohe must be missing so many brain cells, he doesn't even realize they're gone.

Good start to the letter. You owe me for a new keyboard though (I can never get coffee out of the damn thing).

I'm loving the show.

Thanks for your thoughts on Sotomayor. Especially, thanks for the link to Adam Serwer's article, that was nearly perfect. I know a few people who need to read that.

I'm going to refrain from my initial reaction to reading your post and just ask: did you honestly consider what you were writing before you hit "publish"?

I'm curious: are you also The Fool? I ask because you have very similar arguing styles.

Aren't we? Whomever "we" happen to be? Thanks for pointing out how ludicrous and hypocritical this argument is.

Are you even vaguely aware of how stupid your entire post is? I mean, even for something that's just a collection of lies and straw men, it's pretty bad.

What is the point of having Stephanie cover these kinds of movies? Good, bad, she dislikes almost anything that leans towards the fantastic. I could have written this for her.

Who knows, she might be right. I'm just saying, her report was really predictable.

How do you describe a bunch of machines as totalitarian? She does know Skynet is a machine network, right? A computer program gone awry has political beliefs?

Like I said, she might be right about the film. I haven't seen it. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have assigned her to do it though.

Why is there even a debate about this? Does anybody really think this isn't torture? And who believes that this is the worst the US has done?

It sure seems obvious, but I'm glad there's a report out showing it's true. Another blow to the "24" fantasies of some people.

This may be the toughest, most spirited competition for "Troll of the day" that I can recall seeing here. So many bad points made, so much obvious stupidity...makes the choice very difficult.

Thanks for the post Glenn. Really tears open the "empathy" argument that people have been flinging around. I wonder why people seem to think it would be a better idea to spout off BEFORE knowing what they're talking about?

Remember when Reallynow was saying "us liberals"? And now he's insulting people with "liberal breath"? (Seriously, what the hell does that mean?)

Maybe he'll be better at this with a few more days' practice.

I'm pretty sure the counter-argument breaks down to "cases should be decided the way my gut feels they should."

I guess I really have another question. If Americans are going to tell the world, that people who have been tortured and jailed without any kind of representation, can die and no one will care, why should the rest of the world care about America? And contrary to what some of the blowhards who pop by here say, the world is too small for us not to care about each other.

Gitmo is an abomination. Not the only one, but it's there, and would be so easy to get rid of. At what point to we actually start to give a shit about other people?

Technobarbarians. I love that term.

Tell me you're joking, and you're really not that stupid.

Thanks for that. Looking through some of yeahOKsure's letters, that might have been one of his (or hers) more thought-out scribbles.

That's funny, yet really painful at the same time.

Come on, scanners was a classic. Don't you think it would be interesting to see if (name of favourite troll here)'s head would explode like Michael Ironside's?

Thanks for the link to that Post article. It was good reading.

Stupid is a better one, I think. I guess they think their audience are virulent racists. Somebody probably thinks its funny. The guy you e-mailed with can't possibly be that thick, can he?

Really funny, and sadly accurate. Except for the Bill O'Reilly pics, definitely not splotchy enough.