It's the view that Osama bin Laden is a kick-ass tough guy, whom we should emulate.

He's much more like Sun Tzu. He's like an aikido master who uses our own mass, brute force and momentum against us. He brought Bush out of our center of gravity most artfully... if Bush had only stayed in Afghanistan, OBL may have failed.

Shoots his mouth off admits this all amuses him. He and a "few others". A very few others...

We are glad you are taking your neutering so well. We want all the barnyard conservatives to be happy, passive and docile, indefinitely.

Hmm.. We seem to have a conservative stating that religion is irrational.

I think it's safe to assume that Shoots isn't really a conservative. RWA, crypto fascist and neocon maybe.

There are more of them than you realize. John Dean, Pete McCloskey, WFB, Jr. William S. Lind, Col. Pat Lang, Gen William Odom, Chuck Hagel ... really, the list is quite long and I could go on. It's the media that helps perpetuate the myth that this is still a partisan or political ideological issue. The media and our two party system. It's not, really. As Glenn observed in his article about Olbermann. Opposition to Bush makes you a left wing partisan even if you are a conservative Republican like John Dean. Olbermann probably isn't a liberal. He's actually said he's not. He's just an American.

I am not a conservative, but if we have all these conservatives opposing Bush, we can't call them liberal Democratic left wing partisans, can we?

Not as long as you are posting on it. In fact, it's quite lively.

Yes. Pat Buchanan is a paleocon. Many "conservatives" (or those on the economic right), are against the war in Iraq. But Buchanan is an RWA. It is my contention that "true conservatives" are not authoritarians, nor necessarily inhabitants of the economic right. I think reclamation of the term, ("conservative"), from the radical extremists who hijacked it in the last century, is long overdue. I still contend that Peter Viereck was the first and last American conservative. It is not only my contention, I insist upon it.

Karen M: I, too, am horrified that I agree with Buchanan on anything.

Yes. All anti-war positions are not equal. Pat Buchanan, (and Ron Paul) would be against a simple American intervention in another sovereign nations's affairs to prevent genocide and ethnic cleansing. Even if it really were an actual "slam dunk". Not that we have ever really done such a thing. The closest may have been Clinton in the Balkans. Guess who all opposed that?

But that was a revelation.

Please don't share your innermost thoughts and feelings with us.

It's too disturbing.

But the real Secret Boy's Club is The Bohos.

The Bohemian Club at The Bohemian Grove.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohemian_Club

was a devout Christian.

Kamikaze Diaries: Reflections of Japanese Student Soldiers

http://tinyurl.com/2ecco2

Ichizo Hayashi was from a devoutly-Christian academic family. He read the Bible every day. At that time, family members used to send soldiers a Japanese flag with messages on it. Hayashi’s mother and sister both wrote passages from the Bible on the flag they sent him.

He started his diary after being drafted into the military, and he titled it “A Sun and Shield,” from Psalm 84:11, “For the Lord God is a sun and shield.”

http://martinrothonline.com/Christians&War/Christian_suicide_bomber.htm

Chapter 10 in Dying to Win: The Strategic Logic of Suicide Terrorism

The only attempted academic study to date, as far as I know. Wiki has a good summary:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dying_to_Win:_The_Strategic_Logic_of_Suicide_Terrorism

Ch. 10: The Demographic Profile of Suicide Terrorists

“In general, suicide attackers are rarely socially isolated, clinically insane, or economically destitute individuals, but are most often educated, socially integrated, and highly capable people who could be expected to have a good future” (200). Pape discusses problems of data-gathering (201-02). He establishes 462 individuals in his “universe” of suicide terrorists available for analytical purposes (203). Hezbollah suicide bombers in the period 1982-1986 were 71% Communist/Socialist, 21%, Islamist 8% Christian (204-07). In general, suicide terrorists are in their early 20s (207-08). Females are fewer in Islamist groups: “Islamist fundamentalism may actually reduce the number of suicide terrorists by discouraging certain categories of individuals” (208-09). Female suicide terrorists tend to be older than male (209-10). There is no documented mental illness in any case of suicide terrorism, though there are 16 cases of personal trauma (e.g. the loss of a loved one) (210-11). Arab suicide terrorists are in general better educated than average and are from the working or middle classes (211-16). “[T]hey resemble the kind of politically conscious individuals who might join a grassroots movement more than they do wayward adolescents or religious fanatics” (216).

"There is no one righteous; no, not one!"

Sorry. I just wanted to quote some scripture too.

If you google Goldenboy's "cherries" from the Koran,

This is the hit you get:

http://www.prophetofdoom.net/Islamic_Quotes_Tolerance.Islam

You don't even get Crazy Davey Horowitz' Jihad Watch.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Winn

Golden-boy: "Interestingly quiet in here"

You aren't worth the effort. Your nonsense was debunked a few pages ago. All anyone had to do was mention Daniel Pipes' connection to Craig Winn and that website of his, Prohet of Doom!

Maybe they're beginning to pay attention to news stories of American-resident Muslims refusing to do their jobs...

We have that problem with Christian doctors and pharmacists. I'm all for outlawing all religion. When do we call the constitutional convention?

Please save us from your misguided followers! All the normal ones are welcome.

It's also unconstitutional and I doubt we'd get that by the convention... not at this time...

No offense, Golden-Boy, but some of us actually multi-task while reading and posting here. I just did dishes and ordered a pizza.