Lists of alleged Neo-Confederates

The following groups have been labelled "neo-confederate" or "pro-confederate" by one or more organizations or persons as designated in parenthesis. Abbreviations Key: SPLC = Southern Poverty Law Center "Hate Group" watchlist [14]; IR = 2001 Intelligence Report feature by the SPLC's Mark Potok [15]; S = Ed Sebesta; M = James McPherson; LA = Liberty Advocate

League of the South (SPLC, IR, S, LA)

Southern Party (IR, S)

United Daughters of the Confederacy (IR, S, M)

Sons of Confederate Veterans (IR, S, M)

Museum of the Confederacy (S, M)

Ludwig von Mises Institute (IR, S)

American Renaissance (IR)

Council of Conservative Citizens (IR)(Salon)

Confederate Society of America (IR)

The Edgefield Journal (IR)

Heritage Preservation Association (IR)

Rockford Institute (IR)

Southern Legal Resource Center (IR)

Southern Military Institute (IR)

Confederate States of America (organization) [16] (IR)

FreeSouth (SPLC)

FreeMississippi (SPLC)

The New Confederacy

Ku Klux Klan

The following have been accused only by Mr Sebesta, and deny it

Southern Independence Party (S)

Southern Partisan Magazine (S)

John Ashcroft - former United States Attorney General He vigorously denies it; says he gave an interview to editors of a neo-confederate magazine (and has given interviews to magazines of all persuasions in US and abroad) (S)

Roy Barnes - former Governor of Georgia (S)

George W. Bush - President of the United States (S)

Pat Buchanan - conservative political commentator (S)

Bill Clinton - former President of the United States (S)

Various SPLC publications and Sebesta have also accused several well known American scholars, political commentators, and political figures of having connections to or supporting "neo-confederate" causes or groups. The following are among those accused. Abbreviations Key: IR = SPLC Intelligence Report magazine[17]; S = Ed Sebesta

Thomas DiLorenzo - Economist (IR)

Thomas Fleming - conservative political commentator (IR)

Donald Livingston - Philosopher (IR)

Grady McWhiney - Civil War historian (IR)

H. L. Mencken - Journalist of 1920s

(Gail Jarvis on LewRockwell.com)

Clyde N. Wilson - Civil War and southern historian (IR)

The following scholars and politicians have been named by Mr Sebesta and no one else:

Shelby Foote - Civil War historian (S)

Eugene D. Genovese - Southern historian (S)

Lindsay Graham - U.S. Senator from South Carolina (S)

Phil Gramm - former U.S. Senator from Texas (S)

Ron Kirk - former mayor of Dallas, Texas (S)

Russell Kirk - Political philosopher (S)

Rick Perry - Governor of Texas (S)

Frank Vandiver - Civil War historian (S)

Richard M. Weaver - American political philosopher (S)

Trent Lott - U.S. Senator from Mississippi (S)

Robert Byrd - Senator from West Virginia (S)

John McCain - Sebesta accuses him of being friends with George Wallace, Jr. (S)

Gale Norton - Secretary of the Interior (S)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-confederate

;-)

I think Bill Clinton might be a stretch, but hey. I'm no expert.

One of the best books I was ever assigned to read in college was by Prof. William J. Chambliss. It was called:

On The Take-

From Petty Crooks to Presidents.

http://www.gwu.edu/~chamblis/vitae/publications.html

Ever since I have found conflict theory very useful as a theoretical framework with which to understand the world, especially my chosen major, Criminal Justice. It has roots in the Marxian theoretical perspective. You can google it for a refresher, but I'm sure you are familiar with it.

Michael Harold... What I am saying is that any ideology that strives for a fixed and perfect hierarchy or a perfect group dynamic is doomed to failure.

And you mentioned something else along these lines in your post... Libertarianism: The Marxism of the Right...

It was an article in The American Conservative Magazine, of all places.

http://www.amconmag.com/2005_03_14/article1.html

Utopia is probably not achievable but we can strive for the best of all possible worlds and some form of government is just a necessary evil we will all have to live with for the common good. Paul, I don't ever expect we will be able to take our eyes off our government. It's the only way to prevent them from keeping their eyes on us and their hands in the cookie jar, regardless of what party. Chambliss wouldn't quite say that government is a criminal enterprise, a protection racket. I might, but it's better than chaos. I'm not sure I would agree that anarchy and chaos are the same thing.

Let us know when Chavez is dissappearing and torturing people... Like Pinochet. Then we can invade Venezuela for you.

It's the business of the Venezuelan people.

...if we were being governed by regular folks whose only qualification was that they had stayed in a Holiday Inn last night. I can't imagine how anyone could govern worse than the current regime of movement conservatives, neocons and Republicans, can you?

Here's the libertarian rub. I can't bring myself to accept the possibility that my surgeon, dentist, car mechanic, airplane pilot and pharmacist might have no other claim to their occupational titles than the response, "but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night."

That's too scary, even for me.

Since Bush is already dissappearing and torturing people, can we now invade Versailles???

How does July 14th look in your day planner?

Israeli interests are not the same as American interests AIPAC lobbyists are excused from registering as agents of a foreign power. That's unheard of. We might as well make them a 51st state.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O125hGt9qt4

"There is even the possibility that this is a "planned leak" operation much like the CIA/Valerie Plame case designed for no other reason than to embarass AIPAC."

No. The leak was designed to force the FBI to act before their investigation was complete. It was designed to protect AIPAC and Israeli moles, not embarass them.