Keith Talent,

I'll give you "Start Me Up" and "She's so Cold", but those are amoung the older of the songs anyway. My point was that they hadn't done anything good in a long time and were living off their glory days. As for "only good up to the time they graduated high school", I was 4 in 1972. I was mostly just commenting that it'd be nice if they'd book something other than an "oldies" band or miserable pop shlock. At least the Stones avoid the latter category.

lezzbo,

"I admire anyone his age who hasn't gained weight and can move like that at the age of 62."

Amazing what heroin can do, isn't it?

You're right, they do have a problem with the perception of the refs and it is a huge one. Even during the game, people weren't talking about the lackluster play of both teams or the fact that Holmgren doesn't seem to know what he's doing once he gets to the big game, they were talking about how bad the refs were and how one sided the calls seemed. I was at a party in NJ, few real fans for either side and there were three tvs in three different rooms. People in all three rooms were saying the same thing: What is wrong with these refs?

The bad call on Hasselbeck's tackle only cemented the myth, the ref's poor performance lead up to it. They need to be more decisive and they need to get rid of Instant Replay if they're making iffy calls in the theory that it can always be overturned.

This said, why won't the NFL release the entire rulebook? Why do the rules need to be so complicated in the first place? The discussion yesterday about the pilon, breaking the plane and is it a catch never would have happened if the rules were clearer in the first place. Now I know, catch rules take precidence over plane rules, but I wasn't the only one confused.

And calls like the holding call bringing back the pass to the one are a big problem. If there's holding on every play and it can go either way that easily, maybe the definition needs to be changed. Earlier in the game there was a holding call on Seattle and they had a really good shot of it for the replay. The O-Lineman was pushing the Defender when the defender slipped to the right of the O-Lineman and slid down so his facemask got jammed on the O-Lineman's bicep. To me, the Offensive player looked for all the world like he was trying to push, his hadn was nowhere on the guy, but because his arm bent and the Defensive player slumped down like he was trying to limbo under the arm, it became holding.

The rule needs to be more specific somehow or the refs end up deciding who wins on whim every game.

Just remember this article when the Steelers get knocked out of next year's playoffs by an iffy call. I'm not a Steelers fan or a Seahawks fan and the reffing was bad. Did it cost them the game? Maybe not, but it sure as hell didn't give them the boost it gave the Steelers. I've heard Steelers fans complaining about the how the calls were so bad and tilted toward the Steelers too, are they part of the "cry of the losers"?

Always easy to come out and post this nonsense when your team just won. I'd love to see it from you when the Steelers tank.

To all of those saying "more power to SHAC"

It doesn't matter if these actions are considered "terrorist" actions, they're criminal. They're also as immoral and wrong as those they're protesting. Beating a man because he's helping ensure the company's stock is available for trade? Threatening his cousin? Ever heard of "six degrees of seperation"? How long do you think it'd be before you start getting anonymous threatening calls in the middle of the night or a brick thrown through your window because your cousin married a guy that works in the kitchen of the offices of the company that provides security for the lab? By making these threats, they're attacking society at large, people with such tenuous connections that those connections are completely irrelevant or unknown to those on the receiving end.

Do you want to be attacked because your kid gets a job at Burger King? Because he dates someone that works at Burger King? Yes, I'm extending from what they're doing now, but it isn't much of a stretch. Non-violent protest works. These people are thugs and criminals just like those who shake businessmen down for protection money.

Throw away the terrorism label, it is political and counter-productive. Stop declaring "war" on things, drugs, poverty, etc... it continues the idea that violence is part of making things right. This is criminal, the ends never justify the means. Never.

Ficus,

Holmgren has repeatedly shown that he can't be bothered to keep track of time-outs during the Superbowl.

I don't know, depends on what you think of fanatics. Doesn't matter the stripe, they're all the same in the end. Whomever doesn't agree with them must be shown the error of their ways, if that takes violence, so be it.

tempus,

Which activists? The ones beating people with axe handles? The ones making threatening calls to and about relatives? The ones stalking people peripherally connected to the company? Or the ones peacefully protesting and exercising their rights of free speech? You really ought to specify when commenting about an article like this one or people might get the idea you condone beating animals (humans) to prevent the beating of other animals.

Don't forget the Shale Oil deposits contained in the Rockies! Evidently there are huge reserves there as well and a company is experimenting with extracting it by inserting large pilons into the rock and heating them to seperate the oil.