But you don't cite any examples of her telling us any personal failings.

Sounds like every word was written by Palin's publicist to hone her public image. You've been had.

Both are egotistical, hot-headed, my-way-or-the-highway types (like Eliot Spitzer was).

I'm worried about Andrew Cuomo as governor, though. People seem to forget that he has the above qualities. He has the easiest job in the world now, issuing press releases about hunting down bad guys as Attorney General while Patterson makes all the hard choices.

I think Patterson has gotten a bad rap. He made a few mistakes but they were minor. NOBODY who is governor now would be popular.

or at least another culture.

Like with many other commenters here, the reactions of myself and the others around me was not at all like this.

The cool reaction to the girl might have been just the fact that it wasn't their first child. But the outspoken preference for a male child that Aaron expressed (and experienced from others) just seems to be bizarre.

Because they count prisoners in apportioning districts. The prisoners don't vote, but the prisons are in upstate, rural, white areas where the voters are Republican.

Therefore a Senatorial district with a large prison will send a Republican Senator. But the same area, containing three Assembly districts, will send only one Republican (the most rural part, where the prison is).

Nobody engaged my question. All I got was insults.

You really have no appreciation of the other side, don't you?

How many of you pro-choicers would disagree with what Roeder did?

Just asking.

The independent study said was that there was "insufficient evidence to determine the effectiveness" of the abstinence-only approach. In other words, it might work.

My own (very unscientific) opinion is that it doesn't.

Imagine a study calling out for plastic-vagina-("fleshlight")seeking men.

It would be an object of ridicule.

But vibrator-seeking women have a lot of defenders.

How is this different from the life of an athlete? Only a small percentage have the right bodies, and their career is over in a few years.

Plus, as Aaron pointed out, making money off one's body is an option that is simply not available to men.

I think on balance women have the better of this deal.

To be a black woman is to have a history of abuse and humiliation such as your white male ass can hardly imagine. So bad, in fact, that if I grow up to be a balanced adult, it's a goddam miracle. In fact, if you meet me for the first time you're totally justified in assuming I'm f**ked up, because I probably am.

This is what happens to pro-life people who are faced with a situation where abortion would relieve all kinds of problems, present and probably future, and having the child would seem to result in a lifetime of crushing burdens.

"Changes of heart" made under such duress really have nothing to do with the merits of the issue. Put my nuts in a vise and I'll probably readily declare that GWB was a great President. And I wouldn't blame anyone else who declared the same thing under the same circumstances.

Planned Parenthood didn't come out in favor of legalized abortion until 1969.

A very thoughtful comment.

. . . or say that my wife or the other women were faking it, even though they had no problems saying when other things weren't working and even though they could easily orgasm through cunnilingus.

I just ask you to examine your own attitudes and preconceptions. Most of the commenters here are more interested in proving something about themselves than discussing real life. I'm glad that one commenter, mean-spirited as she was, displacing onto me her anger at the lousy lovers she's had, does at least admit that there is such a thing as a "vaginal orgasm".

I'm leaving this thread, but remember: it is NOT cool to say that someone is lying about their sex life. Imagine how you'd feel if you said something happened to you and people said no, you're lying, it couldn't possibly happen that way. Be open-minded, folks!

Odd, everyone admits that some women can reach orgasm by stimulation of nipples, navels, anuses, etc. But a vagina? No way!

At some point, maybe, we'll have grooming and shaving to be the norm to such an extent that a full bush will be a shocking sight. And men and women who don't groom or shave will just have to start.

We're not nearly there yet.

P.S. I like looking at pictures of naked women, and porn, and I'm really turned off by all the shaving. I really miss pubic hair.

Most women can't orgasm during intercourse, but for those that do, the best way is to thrust the same way over and over, for twenty minutes or more if you have to, full length strokes if possible, vigorously. At least that's what I've found. No woman has actually in words told me to do this, but for those that don't say *not* to do it, it tends to work. Also, flick the cervix with the head of your penis (though this hurts for some women).

I'm quite serious when I say this is not particularly enjoyable for me; I prefer slow fucking with a shorter stroke. But the emotional payoff of helping her orgasm is worth it.