Thanks, Glenn for posting--Transcript: Interview with U.N. torture official Manfred Novak.

Such thorough, poignant matters on why nations (like US) think they can ignore any "conventions" should be read by all the hardcore apologists for torture and the arrogant naysayers of the rule of law.

I'm the putty in the hands of my captors who have complete "right" to do anything they want to me for however long and how many times to me so that the warriors for America's interest are completely satisfied.

As I lay in my temperature-stressed cell placed in one of the favorite stressed positions, bombarded with light, sound and deprived of sleep I'm thinking how many years and episodes of this and the suffocating attempts to breathe through waterboarding fluid into my lungs and stomach?

When will my captors ever be satisfied with what information I give them?

Torture works to comfort the sadistic abuser that the lies, claims, and sources to justify it from presidents and faux journalists are noble initiatives.

Torture works to make the guilty and the innocent the dehumanized victims of pathetic cowards like Goldberg, Krauthammer and Ross who think that their ideological enemies are the sole propagandists.

"Just a short note.

Resign!"

That would entail what we all know Ross is incapable of possessing--

a moral, i.e., integrity-over-profit motive.

These media servants have masters that the ghost of Huntley now only regret came too late.

I hope there's enough analytical skill in Dems and Repubs to see this move for what it is--

the last, desperate political move of a grandstander. May his political demise be not mourned.

The confused Dem party needs him like a boil on a plastic surgeon's nose.

"So I think that the Ninth Circuit did the Obama administration a big favor by pointing the way for legitimate secrets to be protected while allowing victims their day in court, and I think if the Obama administration wants to do something constructive in this area, it should support the legislation sponsored by senators Leahy and Specter, that would chart a more sane course for dealing with state secrets claims in the future."--Wizner

"...pointing the way for legitimate secrets to be protected..."

What are legitimate secrets? Are legitimate secrets video tapes of actual "interrogations"?

Are they the number of "classified" flights, what countries, airlines and the cost of rendering detainees considered LS?

Are "legitimate secrets" what drugs and who the psychiatrists are the CIA/military may use to squeeze out the "truth" from the suspects?

Is it a "legitimate secret" to know what the actual number of deceased are that expired during the course of detainment and interrogation for six or more years.

Mr. President and intelligence community operatives--

We (accountability nellies) want to know and more!

"Exposure of undercover CIA agents is likely another."

Yeah, what's the point of being an "undercover CIA agent(s)" if they can't do a little law breaking to protect the free world from the extremist, Muslim lawbreakers of a different color.

In our quest to rid the world of extremist bad people we reserve the right to venture everywhere, undercover and most aggressively in all sovereign affairs to prove that spying and overthrowing regimes works best to establish America's version of freedom.

"You can discover and prove any of those facts yourself yourself."-DavidStewartZink

You surely jest. Here I thought the whole scheme of Unitary Executive, "States Secrets", Executive Privilege, Need to Know, Privileged Information, Classified Material, rejection of FOIA requests, etc. were just posturing by transparency and legality obsessions.

Little did I know it was just impotence on their part to discover those "facts" themselves.

Life is so simple when one has the full disclosure from those agents of subterfuge, don't you think?

They disclose (without deceit)--we discover, how about that?

That is the point.

What most of us recognized as inescapably depressing about our "representative" government years ago was the loss of that electoral power by encroaching, corporate/banking's privileged interest.

What's so distressing is the inability of the red-meat Glenn Beckers to connect the simple and bold dots leading to the influence pedaling to which (whom) you point.

The grasp of truth is flailed by the liars.

"Its kind of like communism, looks good on paper, but not good in its application."

Like capitalism (never tried?). Are we truly, proportionally more capitalistic than economically socialized?

"...looks good on paper, but not good in its application."

Indeed.

"Our system is not perfect, but I would take it over any other in the world. Maybe you prefer another?"

I prefer what works and is justly applied.

"Ebb and flow" rationalizes both systems to continue a status quo that has led the "free-marketers" and socialized--for-the- rich to their utter, hypocritical exposure.

If one thinks they prefer what is the under belly of unregulated markets--they either collect subsidized bonuses (courtesy of taxpayer's bailouts) or they think socialism only means distributing funds to the failed business class as the highest virtue of "capitalism".

The annoyance of the recent rewarding of companies that make invested, deposited monies turn to ash without a thought should give pause to any argument that "capitalism" is flatly ordained the pinnacle.

"The fault you see, my dear Jebbie, lies not in the Banks, but in our selves."

The collective bankers, hedgers, Congress critters and CEO's of irrefutable contempt for honest, financial performance, thank you.

It's good to appreciate the fact that we only have to hold ourselves responsible for allowing these blatant scoundrels of socialized losses and political whores to shave us of our hard-earned tax revenues because we are admittedly as dumb and gullible as the buffalo on the wooden nickel.

They are the smart ones to know we'll fall for it next time and again. They love the smell of fresh, reserve bank cash burning in the fireplace on a Christmas morn.