"As Charles [Krauthammer] said, the country was kept safe ever since 9/11. There has not been an attack. These people did what they did under orders and with patriotism. And Obama should make it clear that none of them is going to be held to account for what they did."--Kondracke

Will we ever tire of pundits and predatory leaders telling us Nurhemburg trials and international laws are for sissies?

The "patriotism" and "I kept your ass safe" card is getting as old as its empty, flag-waving platitudes suggest.

Like "good German", but without all the mustache and hails thrown in.

We used to be all good Americans (Dems and Repubs) until Bush and 9-11 fear-mongers told us first--we have to prove we support the GWOT and ignore international laws to recapture our standing as non-traitorous citizens of our once, true-Americans until PAT Act I& II say otherwise.

1. It is my-- "defense of superior orders," in the jargon of military justice.

2. Don't know if the questioned act is legal.

3. I know the military intelligence community and other governmental agencies, including the CIA endorse this.

4. al-Qaeda detainees aren't protected under GC; Bush and Rumsfeld told me so. I can look the other way and not feel guilty.

5. I can stretch the confinements imposed on me as a guard/ interrogator- suggested by the MCJ, GC, NurhTrials and such, after all, my buddies outside this prison are shedding blood for freedom--these detainees (hint:prisoners) are mine.

Then, that makes Obama and his supporters quite complicit in securing what was handed to them by Bush's new and generous executive powers, if they know he will not squander them away to satisfy us-- Three-branches-for-a-reason-types.

Much delusion to go around the bramble "Bush", I'd say.

Now, for that bridge to nowhere that promises conveyance to a less-tyrannical form of governing--I'm hiking it with my delusions in check.

"Sadly, that is going to bite us squarely on the ass as a nation once we're no longer the sole superpower." --Slackie Onassis

How the mighty have fallen (who were once so mighty).

What makes America mighty--economy, military and liberty, are now so much socialism, bloody parade pomp and big brother, I can't tell her from China, Russia or the rest of once-mighty empires of we-do-good-because-we-can empires.

"moral posturing" ?

Is that like--putting the "detainee" in an upside down position, with arms and legs shackled while I get to see how many hours it takes for him to complain that he would like to not mess on the floor?

That "moral posturing"--didn't know whether to take you literally. No Jews or Arabs deserve any treatment you deem permissible to further a dubious position of moral right, because we're at war with those people.

"Prosecution for future crimes"

Interesting how that "Minority Report" concept has tainted the jurisprudence for citizens of the US and the globe.

If one ponders the preemptive, offensive posture the PAct 1&2 codify, there is room to predict all states and nations' people are suspect for potential lawless acts against the laws pertaining to anarchy, insurrection, corporate/economic terrorism, and all the rest of patriot-oriented neurosis.

It's that-- pin the rabble-rousers to the cross, before they knew they were free and innocent advantage.

Won't we be splendidly exhuberant to look back on these vaporous days of bombing and spoilage as we have for the 6-day, Lebanon 2005 and now the Gaza campaign as they prick our sense of what is glorious.

These atrocities, for whatever cause speak to the crudest of inhuman crimes. There is only empty rhetoric left to justify killing and starving many for the safety of a few.

"A new U.N. Report is demanding a war crimes investigation into a particularly gruesome and inhumane civilian slaughter last week, but U.N. Resolutions and the like only matter when they can be used as pretexts for military action (Saddam Hussein is ignoring U.N. Resolutions!"-Glenn

Isn't it odd how innocent-sounding the outrage from this Administration when they accuse other regimes of violating treaties/resolutions, but conveniently ignore their own violations because it suits their pretext for the US and their allied wars? The false rightousness begins to show through by mounting US military sponsored incidents like Gaza.

The ex-clergy, LBJ official brings out the shame of Gaza well, but I notice he is careful how he frames the arguments from both sides. Moyers delivers faithfully the expose' that needs addressing, but his voice does not resonate loudly enough in the climate of 21st century "smart bombs" cluster mines and phosphorous warfare.

"...voice does not resonate loudly enough..." me

You would permit me the luxury of expressing something in a figurative sense without being so literal?

It's called "figure of speech" or were you being disingenuous?

As for Olberman, since you are comparing-- his words (and volume) are certainly for effect, but that does not void his pinpointing truthful and numerous failings he sees in any administration.

In response to the valid and cacophonous screams of anti-semitism:

There is anti-native americanism

There is anti-africanism

There is anti-native hispanicism

There is ant-homosexualism

--and a slew of historic inbred, indoctrinated and bigoted anti-isms all with the common feelings shared by people-- those who would annihilate those they would hate, always for the wrong reasons, if that hate can be permitted toward real evil.

Now for the current justifications for hate/fighting of occupiers and punishers-- don't let the bear ravage the children, if the children be hungry.