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Monday, May 18, 2009 08:49 AM

same old same old

The number of Canadians who use the US as "safety value for those in need of urgent, critical or innovative care and therapies" is vanishingly low, quite possibly zero. How many Americans can afford to get medical care in America without the aid of their healthplan? How can Canadians, with their lower average salaries, be doing that?

The whole question was very exhaustively researched in "Phantoms In The Snow: Canadians' Use Of Health Care Services In The United States", by Steven J. Katz, Karen Cardiff, Marina Pascali, Morris L. Barer and Robert G. Evans, in Health Affairs, May/June 2002. They surveyed medical institutions in Buffalo, Seattle, and Detroit, across the border from large Canadian population centers, for procedures which were reported to be in short supply or waitlisted in Canada like CAT scans, cataract surgery, MRIs, etc., and found a few hundred Canadians max per year, as opposed to tens or hundreds of thousands of Canadians having the same procedure in each Canadian province. They checked with mental health organizations (clinics for depression, rehab, drug abuse, etc.) and found all but one having seen fewer than ten Canadians, and one fewer than 25. In New York State, out of over 100,000 patients treated for alcoholism and drug abuse, only 246 were from outside the US at all. Over five years of hospital admissions, Canadians admitted to US hospitals in the three cities represented 0.23% of the total Canadians admitted to hospitals across the border from the three US cities. And, 80% of those 0.23% were emergencies and childbirths. They surveyed 11 of "America's Best Hospitals", (according to US News and World Reports), and found that 6 had seen fewer than 15 Canadians and 4 had seen 20-60 Canadians. The last had seen 600 Canadians, 90% of whom were outpatients being sent there by their provincial plan for proton beam therapy for cancer. When asked directly, which would presumably give Canadians forced to leave the country for medical care a chance to complain, "Only 90 of 18,000 respondents to the 1996 Canadian NPHS National Population Health Survey] indicated that they had received health care in the United States during the previous twelve months, and only twenty indicated that they had gone to the United States expressly for the purpose of getting that care."

Meanwhile, of course, the US has in fact come up with an innovative form of lower cost medical care; medical tourism, with Americans leaving the US to get high quality low cost care anywhere else on the planet, including Canada.

http://www.foot.com/articles/?p=656

That's aside from the folks going to Canada to steal services with bogus membership cards for the Canadian health plans, which are now having to shift to picture IDs. (Obviously, there's no demand among Canadians for bogus Canadian healthcare IDs.) Alberta Health plan reports "several thousand residents of northern Montana, Idaho, and Washington State have Alberta health care cards and come to Lethbridge or Calgary for all their health care needs" illegally. And of course, crossing over to Mexico for cheap healthcare of questionable quality has been popular in the Southern border states for quite a while, but only among poorer folks, so it doesn't rate a lot of headlines like "real" Americans going to get care in Thailand.

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/IndustryInfo/story?id=2320839&page=1

http://www.medicalnomad.com/inthenewslist.do?view=procedure&startIndex=20&procedureID=null

And now, that's an official strategy/service of healthcare insurers:

"WellPoint Introduces International Medical Tourism Pilot Program

WellPoint announced a new international medical tourism pilot product that will allow members to access benefits for certain common elective procedures at designated facilities in India. Beginning in January 2009, WellPoint's affiliated health plan in Wisconsin will pilot the program with Serigraph, Inc., a Wisconsin-based global provider of printed decorating solutions. The pilot program includes coverage of certain common nonemergency procedures such as major joint replacement, upper and lower back fusion, and other procedures that have significant cost differences between domestic and international providers."

Monday, May 18, 2009 08:09 AM

So, what happens if you start with 65 year olds and look at mortality after that? We show up as roughly equal to Canada

Entirely true. The stats show that the US healthcare system is worst at birth and gets progressively better as you age, until around 70-80 years of age we do become the best in the world. And, of course, that best in the world care is supplied by Medicare, i.e. single payer socialized medicine.

Sunday, May 17, 2009 02:18 PM

if "I only hear or read about it from the liberal media"

then why are you parroting official rightwing fantasy verbatim?

Saturday, May 16, 2009 09:26 PM
Original article: The virginity fetish

i lost my virginity on horseback

the woman i was intercoursing at the time said it was very uncomfortable.

Friday, May 15, 2009 09:53 AM

people please

the man was just sneezing, that's all.

Friday, May 15, 2009 09:49 AM

excuse me

I believe protocol requires that the Republican Party apologize for putting its face in the way of the former Vice President's shotgun volleys.

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 09:12 AM

"But what's to be gained by putting some of these Bush people on trial?"

Regain some of our lost credibility among other nations.

Tuesday, May 12, 2009 09:33 PM

more God on Trek

don't forget the episode which ends with (approximately; and I don't remember who spoke what line)

"You know, it's unusual for such an advanced culture to be Sun worshippers."

"This explains it; our translator made an error. What they actually said is that they worship the Son."

"Ah."

Everybody nods thoughtfully.

Credits.

Tuesday, May 12, 2009 09:38 AM

aaaahhhhh!!!

Fast Food Dollar Menu items are people!!!!

Monday, May 11, 2009 10:28 PM

nothing new under the sun

http://harvardmagazine.com/2009/05/song-hard-times

Monday, May 11, 2009 10:23 PM
Original article: Houston pulls a Palin

if it were me

i'd decline the kit and spend the $2k on a big thug to exact revenge. seeing as the govt is apparently deciding that it's not their business to get involved for nothing.

Monday, May 11, 2009 09:48 AM
Original article: Houston pulls a Palin

more cost savings

from now on, murder victims will be required to provide the chalk for the outlines of their bodies.

Monday, May 11, 2009 09:47 AM
Original article: Houston pulls a Palin

pay for police

of course.

a couple of years ago i tried to contest a traffic ticket. time passes. i get a notice that i've failed to appear in court and my license is about to be revoked. i can either pay the original fine or reopen the case. they had sent the notice of court date to what appears to be a completely random address in a town i've never set foot in. "where did you get this address?" shrug. costs $60 to reopen the case. doesn't matter that they sent it to the wrong address. i reopen the case. the ticket is dismissed. i'm not guilty but out $60. Next!

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