Well as far as an SF meetup goes I am open. I don't head to Manila until Feb. I'll be gone for a month. When are you two going? Maybe we could do it in November. All our rides are done the first weekend of October. This Sunday, 20th, next Sunday 27, and the first Sunday in October, then one short trip to Montana in mid-October. I do love SF in November, so that is the best month for me! If you and Celia organize something in Nov that would be the best, then it could be any weekend other than Thanksgiving of course!

Hmph, no emotion to be shown by any woman in public, because those are the rules men made long ago and we must learn to abide by them. Of course for men it is okay to get teary because when they do cry in public it isn't a manipulation. Because isn't it correct that you as a man are uncomfortable when a woman cries, you believe she is just trying to manipulate you, rather than to see it as a true feeling. This is a typical male reaction, wait let me rephrase, this is a typical neanderthal reaction, although maybe that is an insult to Neanderthals. GWB used to get teary eyed all the time, were you speaking up then? So just because you are emotionally stunted and can't handle a true emotion, especially from a powerful woman, then out of office she must go.

So let me ask you this, since you've been a D since 1983, did you not vote for Mondale because Ferraro cried? If so I blame you then for you emotionally stunted decision then and now.

Don't forget to join us tonight! I can't believe I didn't put your name there :), forgive me?

PalinStalker, also known as ReaderReader is neither an historian nor is he a geographer, the fact is he is just in love with Sarah Palin. Back during the election period, he was falling all over himself to tell us all what a genius Sarah is... OMG, really? So anyway who cannot see Sarah Palin is an under educated, bowhead, is just an idiot. He attempts to use Ontological Arguments, but since he doesn't really understand that type of argument he distorts it badly. He is like a male Orly Taitz, he you know increasingly incoherent in his attempts to discredit and delegitimize the President. I believe there the one difference between PalinStalker and Orly is the eyelashes, but since I've never seen PalinStalker personally I could be wrong.

I had to head to bed early, like I keep saying it is the Chukanut Century on Sunday, we are raising money for Hospice of Snohomish County. I was in bed early so that tonight we can have some fun.

Joan your birthday and my birthday are close, so happy Birthday to you and almost to me! I wish you a very happy birthday, and thanks for calling me a hero on these threads! Diable4 and CeliaSF were talking about organizing a SF meetup, and since SF is my second home I will fly in, it would be an absolute blast! Good wine, good food, fun friends! We will let you know because I think we are going to call it the Salon Meetup, therefore we couldn't have this meetup without you!

Morning Diable, Fester and Lisa, I will facebook this morning. I wish I hadn't missed all this last night though, I see the crazies have really come out to defend winger ways. And stoke the flames of hatred... they claim they are not racists they just hate everything about the President. They seem to imply constantly of course everything that happened during Bush's years are all Pres. Obamas fault. And of course they are, (snark) because one thing we know about Conservative Republicans and their moron army, they never ever take responsibility for anything at all, never, not in a million years.

OMFG, Orly Taitz is going to be on Morning Meeting, I am going to record it because you know how incredibly crazy this is going to be!

See you all tonight!

You are as intellectually dishonest as you are stupid.

That is the problem Joan, they simply do not want to see it. They don't, because if they don't see it it doesn't exists. Hence our very problem. It is why I worry so much for the safety of our President.

You continually refer to our president as a Messiah. You seem to be attempting to paint liberals using your bastardized form of ontological argument. St. Anselm looks down upon you realizing you know nothing about the nature of being. Ontological arguments are fallacious in that they have no basis in facts, and there in lies your own problem, your arguments have no basis in facts. I guess that is why you are such a fan/stalker of Sarah Palin, as she also rejects facts for fallacies. It is great that you two seem to have quite a bit in common.

Panic over winger violence.

Yes because Kennedy, King, Kennedy, mean nothing, it is all meaningless drivel. Medger Evers, means nothing, those were all just coincidences right, those three little girls who lost their lives, the college boys, murdered by wingers, then of course Oklahoma City, umm humm, nothing to worry about, sure squareville, is that because you are just like the others in thinking that is the way to overturn and election your side so clearly lost?

Yeah that is what I thought.

Shorter Glock "Obama's communist American is carrying more freight". So Glock is he carrying more freight on a train or on a Semi, and what union is he working with? Are they shipping everything or just certain important things?... Glock spell check is only your friend Glock if you know the correct words to begin with.

FAIL.