To say that:

liberals seem to lack the long historical view; particularly when it comes to the permanence of human conflict.

seems a judgement of a perceived weakness we have, and you base it on a lack of classical training. I've been pondering this for several minutes now, rolling it over in my mind, " the permanence of human conflict", it is difficult to get over the fact it is a stridently Hobbesian view of human interaction! Hobbes had more than a dark view of human interaction. But then Hobbes himself lived in a time of complete turmoil and human conflict seemed a way of life. But this is not a secret to you. Hobbes philosophy taken in entirety was very dark indeed, I certainly hope it won't get that dark for us. I do no think we can merely limit ourselves when we are developing our deeper beliefs by only thinking about those thinkers of earlier centuries.

It is fun once again to do what we did in college and think slightly more deeply about our subjects, a fun challenge. But it has derailed part III in my Real Housewife of Alaska story!

You just wish you were funny buddy, but no conservative is, look a Dennis Miller, he is just a douche like you now.

My scrotometer is working perfectly. I am an expert in republi-con scrotometrics, it is the newest research in micro-biology. The scrotometer is the only piece of equipment necessary to analyze posts by republi-cons.

And I quote

When me and my neighbors pull out our arsenal of weapons (2nd amendment in case you’re wondering) and descend on Washington then you can worry about an overthrow.

My how very civil of you. But as usual, civility to republi-cons only goes one way, never two. I am sure you will tell me there is nothing wrong with what you've written, I on the other hand regard your statement as a threat. By any chance is your last name McVeigh?