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Thursday, May 31, 2007 08:45 AM
Original article: Inside the Creation Museum

the money quote...

quoth Gordy:

Ham blames the notion that the Earth is quite a bit older than the Bible suggests for just about all the world's problems. Evolution, which requires large amounts of time for small changes to accumulate into larger ones, makes it far too easy for people not to believe the Bible, he says. And that loss of belief "is at the root of modern evil."

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this is what Dawkins has been saying for a long, long time. I find it fascinating that this guy is, in essence, saying that if evolution if true, then Christianity is a fraud. Wow.

This article is also proof-positive that the evolution of a large forebrain has simply been wasted on some of us.

Great article Gordy. It'd be funny, if it wasn't so sad...or, frankly, a little scary.

Thursday, May 31, 2007 09:11 AM
Original article: Inside the Creation Museum

@wilson ... uh, dude, you have it *exactly* backward. Which figures, by the way.

wilson wrote:

Also, I hate to break it to you, but Strong Atheism is no less a belief system than any other religion in the world - it is a fixed belief in something that can never be proven.

^^^^^^^^^^

You have this exactly backwards. You believe in something that cannot be proven. I, on the other hand, know for a fact there is no god. Can I prove it, as a logical matter? No. But my non-belief is not a matter of faith. It's a matter of fact. Or, if you prefer, a matter of theory whose chances of being wrong are so vanishingly small (based on current *scientific* evidence) that it might as well be fact.

Don't accuse atheists of a belief system of the kind you have. We don't have one. You indulge in cheap projection when you do that.

And, by the way, the other poster who pointed out that people like Richard Dawkins and Sam Harris would be far more protective of religious beliefs than any fundamentalist christian, was right. I feel the same. You want to collect souvenir plates? go ahead. You want to believe in the tooth fairy? Go ahead. You want to practice rituals and design rules for behavior in service to belief in a non-existent supreme being? Be my guest.

Atheists are the best friends the religious ever had. Just don't mix your beliefs in with politics. And don't tell me I have to conform to your weird ideas about the cosmos, human nature, and origins thereof.

(I must confess, I've always been deeply amused at the way religious people just won't address the problem of the tooth fairy. Or Zeus. Or Hera. Once, many people believed in these supernatural, non-existent beings. How is there *any* logical, practical difference between Zeus, Odin, and the Christian god? There is no difference. Christianity simply stole many of its fundamental precepts for older beliefs-in-gods-that-don't-exist. Some of Christianity's essentialy beliefs go all the way back to Egyptian polytheism. This is all a commonplace. What's not commonplace is the stubborness of irrationality. Wired in by the very evolution that irrationality dismisses. It is a lovely irony, really.)

Thursday, May 31, 2007 09:25 AM

there you have it...

it was only a matter of time. The GOP's strategy for avoiding blame. Such as it is. Blame the democrats for everything.

I just hope the Dems know how to counterpunch this, because there's going to be a lot of it in the next 18 months.

Can we just let South Carolina secede from the Union? Then we can exploit it. Keep it down. And keep people like Jim Demint OUT of the Senate.

Jesus. What a prick.

Thursday, May 31, 2007 01:07 PM

"I am the President"

This version of the story agrees largely with the anonymous version, seems like.

"I am the President." Accurate enough, as far as it goes. More accurate, perhaps "I am an idiot."

We never should have let the right-wing genie get out of the GOP bag. I sometimes think this all started with the GOP FCC eliminating the Fairness Doctrine back in the 1980s. The GOP knew it couldn't actually run on its agenda, so it just made sure there was no rational counter-argument in the places that would have counted.

And now we have to get the genie back in the bottle. Somehow.

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