That's all these people are. None of them actually beleive that Obama was born in Kenya or anywhere else outside the United States, they are just crying sour grapes that the dems are back in power so they are trying to manufacture a phony "controversy" to undermine their return. If it had been Hillary we would have seen the return of Vernon Jordan or whatever new one they've cooked up since. If it had been Biden, they would have found some way to blame him for his sons death. Conservatives have no conscience. They will do whatever it takes to win. This is why I don't think the heads of the republican party give a shit about gay marriage or abortion, it's just a way to get the stupid hicks to vote for them.

Michelle Malkin won't touch this, Whirled Nutz Daily won't touch this, and unless Limbaugh or O'Rielly take this up tommorrow, I doubt any of the others will either. Right now, the only ones stupid enough to treat this like an actual issue are the MSM and Salon. Let's not do the conservatives jobs for them, people. I don't think any of these new "concern trolls" that have popped up lately actually beleive this either. Your debating people who already know your right. A handful of loons who are still bitter about the outcome of the Civil War does not a consensus make.

To all the new posters who have magically popped up because of this issue that are so "concerned" about a "constitutional crisis", there's plenty to be concerned about with the Patriot Act. Funny how you all weren't worried about the collapse of the republic then.

Cut the crap! Your just bitter that we still blame you Greens for Gore losing in 2000 (and rightfully so). You don't beleive Obama was born in Kenya anymore then I do. Siding with the crazies isn't helping your cause any.

And who do you beleive? A bunch of crazies that even the people they agree with won't take seroiusly. How far on the fringes does a movement have to be for you to write it off?

That "dirty" feeling you got, Joe, that's how the whole republican party operates. Your masters on talk radio aren't going to tell you that because their in on it. That's why guys like you care more about gay marriage and abortion then you do about healthcare. Because you let yourselves get suckered. You were let inside the cage and a part of your mind allowed itself to see what was really going on. Their using you and the moment your 15 minutes are no longer profitable, they will throw you away.

The best we can hope for from all of this is that Joe takes away from this experience that politiicans in general are corrupt and he walks away from it altogether. Talk radio has eaten too much of his mind for him to come around to Obama or the dems ("I just don't trust him"? What the hell kinda answer is that?). After his book lands in the half off bin six weeks after it's release and the publisher wants it's money back, he may very well be on that path.

I'm not surpirsed this idiot thought he could be president, look at "dubya". All he had to do was say "Jesus" a bunch of times and the stupid hicks carried him into office. I love how the right wing trolls are trying to link Obama to this guy (this may finally put the nail in the coffin of the "born in Kenya" conspiracy now that they have new replacement talk radio can get on board with) and crying moral outrage while spending the past five years ignoring the fact that the war in Iraq was based on lies. I guess if your guy does it it's okay, right? Guess we found what Limbaugh and his clones will be whining about the next four years. "B-b-b-but Blagojevich!" Of course by the time Obama's up for re-election rolls around, no one will remember this guy except the ditto heads.

Most republicans still defend him to this day. They don't have a problem with the fact that he started a war based on lies and let the man who REALLY attacked our country get away, but bring up Clinton and Monica and, well, it's the collapse of the republic!

Whoever invented the camera phone had to know this would happen. Every advance in communication technology has been adapted for porn. It's the whole reason VHS beat out BETAMAX. Let's stop pretending that we're outraged at what's going on here. It happened with VCRs, it happened with the internet and now it's happening with phones and other personal communication devices. The only way to stop it is to stop the advancement of technology. Even that would only slow it down. For those who are so concenred about this (read: nosy busybodies with no lives of their own) take heart in the fact that the internet has actually put a dent in porn sales the past few years. Why buy the cow, and so forth...

Perfect example of what I was talking about.

What does any of that have to do with going in based on a lie? Who cares if she is spouting "anti-war propoganda"? That is what your freedom of speech is about. Unless you only believe in it for Iraqis.