They don't understand homosexuality. This is why they constantly refer to it as a "behavior". If you actually ask them what causes gay attraction, (as I have done) they either don't care (which is at least somewhat honest I suppose) or they go into some elaborate explaination involving molestation at a young age. When I point out that most gays were never molested, the conversation dries up pretty quick.

For me, this is a sign of hatred if for no other reason then the fact that they won't deal with the cause of the "problem". What is interesting is how many opportunities their leaders have had to deal with this issue and won't take it. Alan Keyes could just sit down with his daughter and ask her questions about what brought all this about, ditto Phylis Schlafly, yet don't seem to want to. If they truly see homosexuality as a scurge that must be wiped out, then how can they do that by just ignoring where it comes from?

This is also proof in my eyes that the top of the GOP has no real opinion on this issue other then to use it as a way to sucker the "unwashed masses" to vote for them. It is in their best interest if this issue never goes away becuae then they would need another bogey man. You have to wonder just how "concerned" Pat Robertson and all these others who exploit this issue really are about it.

If you need any more proof that the right has no understanding of homosexuality, just look at the success rate of these "re-education" centers for people to "come out of" homosexuality. At best the success rate is 50%, and that doesn't deal with the "urges" that are still there even after someone completes the program. Doesn't sound like a "choice" to me.

But since we're on the subject of closeted gays, how about Dobson himself? I have never seen anyone so obsessed with forcing straight marraige on the populace as he is. This could be his own sign of repression (plus, have you ever heard that nasally voice of his?). I've never been quite clear on just what FOTF is; is it a religious organization? Because if it is, then their threats to "abondon the GOP" could be seen as admitting past support for one particular political party. The IRS might be very intersted in hearing that!

Certainly when he started out in 1999-2000, many on the right truly did see him as a divine being. Now, with Iraq a train wreck with little hope of a positive outcome, I wonder how they see the divinity they bestowed on him? I have already seen one poster on my local newspaper forum say he isn't a "real" conservative, (didn't Glenn Greenwald warn us they would do that?) I doubt he was saying that in 2004.

We must remember that this assumption of Bush's holiness on their part came about based on the critiria that their pastors and leaders told them due to a very short laundry list of issues they were told were the most important (gay marriage, abortion, ten commandments in public buildings), criteria set down by modern men who cherry picked certain topics they liked best. There is nothing in the bible about trickle down economics or an unregulated market, but good luck convincing many christians today that Jesus never said anything about those issues.

It seems to me that this problem of "political theology" comes about whenever religious leaders start telling their followers that God considers "issue A" the most important thing in the world, and points to an obscure line in the bible to back it up. In the case of Bush, it wasn't just an issue, it was a person. They ASSUMED Bush was going to be a great leader and reformer based on their own criteria, born of a politically convienent reading of the bible. Now that assumption has fallen through and they look a little lost.

Yes, there are still the true believers that hold out hope Jesus will bail Bush out some 20 or 30 years from now but for the most part, whatever original time table the set for him to "save" America and the world, has mostly run out.

No wonder the modern presidential field doesn't look very appealing, how do you follow a guy who was suppossed to be a representative of God and didn't deliver? You can't.

So the military wants to convince more young people to join them? Here's a thought: STOP BLINDLY SUPPORTING THE REPUBLICAN PARTY!!! The Iraq debacle happened because most of your members voted for the current occupent and the reason why they did that is because they give the republican party a free pass every election year while the democrats have to constantly show their "tough enough".

Use of force should be a means of last resort and only when needed. Iraq wasn't either one of those things. Your party of choice sees the world as one giant RISK game, whose pieces aren't their kids. Most young people can see that. Why can't you?

Funny how nobody broke it out during the whole Dan Rather/60 Minutes 2 mess. Probably would have made the whole thing dry up pretty quick don't you think?

But since we're on the subject, where's Cheney's honorable discharge? Oh, that's right, HE TOO IS A DRAFT DODGER!!! So is Wolfowitz and every other member of PNAC. Enjoy your heroes cons! Ha! Ha!

I can't wait to see if that one makes the rounds on all the televangelist and radio shows! Right up there with "Cultural Terrorist".