"First of all, who ever worried that Lieberman was the best-liked among his colleagues, as if this were a junior high popularity contest? And whoever would feel comfortable giving Lieberman the deep, Freudian analysis as an argument against his legitimacy as a candidate?"

Um, isn't McCain, his temper, and his reputation amongst his colleagues a topic of a fair amount of campaign coverage this year?

And wasn't a "deep Freudian analysis" part of the dissection of Bush the Lesser's candidacy, as the incidents with his father were played and replayed?

The notion that HRC is somehow being given different treatment, at least in these two regards, should be put to bed.

So torture has gone from being the unofficial and unacknowledged policy of the US to the official and acknowledged policy of the US.

We've gone from being the premier colonial power in the world to being the premier incompetent colonial power in the world.

We've stopped fighting an ineffective War on Drugs that made us feel better and allowed us to seize the assets of people who were different from us, and started fighting an ineffective War on Terror that makes us feel better and allow us to seize the assets of people who are different from us.

We've stopped being run by corporations covertly, and now we're being run by corporations openly.

And you wonder why people think flag pins are a big deal?

What's really changed in the last eight years? The real answer: not much.

Remember this:

"Asked if she believed homosexuality was immoral, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton declined to answer the question in a television interview this morning and said it was for 'others to conclude.'"

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/03/14/clinton-ducks-answer-on-whether-homosexualty-is-immoral/

"A lot of my liberal journalist friends got so fired up about the ABC debate questions, they sent a letter of protest to ABC news. (Nobody asked me to sign it, but then, they probably thought they already had too many women.)"

Or maybe they thought an avowed Clinton supporter, an avowed anti-Obama writer, might not be wanted or might not agree that things had actually gone way wrong in that debate.

The fact that you think "gotcha!" questions are okay says a lot about you.

Clinton represents the old politics of this country, the politics that nearly destroyed her husband. All she learned was how to play that particular game. She will change nothing if elected; watch and see. The only reason you're supporting her is because she's a woman.

"I find it shameful that so many blacks are trying to demonize the Clintons."

Huh. I'm a white guy who finds that nobody has to try to demonize the Cs; they're doing a fine job all by themselves.

Look, I'll vote for HRC in November if she's the nominee; more and more I find HRC supporters won't make the same pledge about BHO. They've gotten more and more hateful towards anyone who thinks differently from them. They anointed HRC a year ago, and now when it looks as if she'll fershure lose the nomination, they've just turned dog-kicking mean.

The Clintons aren't racists; they're just opportunists. They're the Marc Antonys of today. Yeah, I'll vote for HRC in November if I have to--but that's it. If she runs in 2012 (and hey, I've been saying that she's planning four in advance for a while now) she'd better run for the party she really aligns with: the Republicans.

"Strangely Enough, maybe some folks hate Obama supporters because you are arrogant, smug, hectoring, race-baiting haters yourselves...? Coul it be?"

Uh, no, not really. The notion that if you opposed Clinton you were a "hater" was one of the first memes out of HRC supporters' mouths. It didn't sit well a year ago, and it's even less true now. Many of us who find Clinton unsavory object to her votes on Iraq and Iran, her hypocrisy, her failures, her use of hatred for race and religion, and her lies.

The claims you make about BHO supporters are all simply the truth about HRC, her campaign, and many of her supporters. This is actually a typical GOP tactic: claim that what's true about you is the truth about your opponent. This is why we find HRC, her campaign, and her supporters so repulsive.

"Dr. Zachary Smith, you casually toss around words like

"unsavory" and "repulsive" about those you oppose, and yet you are not a hater? Doesn't hold water, sorry."

Trust me; it's not casual. Still not hate, though. Thorough dislike, at this point, of you and yours, you betcha. But you've gone out of your way to earn it, let's face it.