If Barack Obama is a Christian (he says he is), then refusing to go talk to another group of Christians would be a deeply weird thing to do. I'm amazed (really) at how liberals seem to want to see their candidate through the lens of secular savior when that guy has spent decades cultivating votes through the medium of the church and church organization--an action I think is pretty damn corrupt. For gods' sake, wake up as to who he actually is rather than who you want him to be. Either he actually BELIEVES the things he's been living or he doesn't. If he remotely believed them, going to Saddleback was the right thing to do.

As a former member of a fundamentalist church, a former liberal, who managed to be both of those at once, and more recently a person best characterized as a libertarian, and someone who intended to vote for Barack Obama until he eviscerated the fourth amendment and who now intends to write in Dodd (call me an idiot), I can assure that your reporter who found no takers on Obama doesn't mean they don't exist. Around 15 - 20 years ago before I came to see the fundamental corruption in fundamentalist evangelism, I woulda been hailing the guy's glory much the way the nutbars in his secular fan club seem to do still.

This is a very weird thing to see and read about. Extremely. Every time Obama does something that is actually in line with behavior he has exemplified for years, it seems to take people by surprise. And cries of "unfair" about the cone of silence are just silly.

I hadn't even read your letter when I posted mine. Thank you for stating the truth. The world some of these people live in about Obama is stunningly divorced from the reality of his political rise. It's an amazing thing to see.

"He was too good to go there." Ha, he's ONE OF THEM.

"He's unelectable."

"And PUMAs--you got your marching orders from the boss herself."

Why anyone thinks that candidates do the thinking for their constituency, I'm not sure. Why delegates are complaining about how to vote (Hilary, tell us waht to do...) when they had their marching orders already from those who elected them is confusing to me. The people who elected them, I thought, were giving marching orders--not CLINTON. Delegates were elected to go to the convention and vote for who they were elected to vote for, I believe. There's nothing really complex or confusing about it. Were I a delegate elected to vote for Hilary, I would do. Were I a delegate elected to vote for Obama, I would do so. Party "bosses" may be hand-wringing, wanting a show of unity, but the party was not and is not unified yet. A show doesn't "make" 18 million votes of folks who are not in Denver go away. Implicit in the comment above, the whole notion of Democrats having marching orders and you better like it by god, is really amazing to me.

Guess politics is just confusing to me.

"He's unelectable" though still resonates. Wonder if she meant what she said? "He's not ready to be President." Wonder if he meant what he said?

Doesn't seem like they ever mean what they say, or rather, they did mean it, but then later have to retract it because they have their marching orders. Who's giving it to them, I don't know. The people? Hmmm...oh, well.

Lacking incisive, decisive insight, but not full of shit,

Me

It means John McCain is going to win. He just co-opted the Obama narrative. I think some of you folks over-think this stuff and manage to miss the point quite widely. If elected Democratic Representatives are going to act like Republicans rather than what they were elected to do, ie ignoring their mandates, then voting for or against them makes no difference. Snobama cannot be counted on to do anything he's said he will do, since he's not even elected yet and has reversed himself on any position of importance.

Here's for a vote AGAINST Ms. Pelosi "impeachment is off the table." Damn, Democrats really know how to lose them. They can't win if their lives depend on it.

You just called it. Seriously. My sister, lifelong Demo, just switched sides. She wasn't fond of Obama, watched with dismay his recent switch in policies she held dear, and was deeply angry at the DNC for its own sexism against Hillary and Obama's campaign for same. Literally, 30 years of voting Democratic was just tossed out teh window by her in a great big F-YOU. Somehow, I think her attitude is about to be replicated more than the letterwriters here want to believe.

Guess it really sucks, then, that he's correct. *shrug* I'm not a repug troll, and I can see the writing on the wall. See, normal people just don't vote the way you smart people do :P