Glenn,

Thanks for pointing out the multiple levels of "justice" inherent in the multiple ways the detainees will be tried. By hiding the military commissions trials of some behind the headline of KSM's criminal trial, Obama seems to be carrying out another bout of sleight of hand.

I would add the observation just put up by Emptywheel that Greg Craig's departure being announced today could be interpreted as him disagreeing with parts of this plan for multiple levels of treatment for the detainees.

I also have just put up a diary where I argue that it is a good thing Holder decided to try KSM in court and that that decision implies that DOJ has made a determination that sufficient "clean" evidence exists to achieve conviction. I also argue that KSM's torture continues in a very real way since the fates of his children still have not been announced. Linked at my name.

That Iraq actually followed through in fining The Guardian is only marginally worse to me than the early post 9/11 admonitions to the press to be careful about what they said.

For related points, I highly recommend a Seminal diary posted yesterday by Casual Obersver, where CO makes the very interesting point that "our 'partners' are hopelessly corrupted by our very presence". The whole diary is worth a read: http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/14128

I've also linked at my name a diary I just posted where I look at today's editorial in the New York Times where they call Iran to task for accusing the captured Americans of being spies. My diary shows how the accusations on many fronts against Iran apply equally well to the US.

I'm off to watch the dog videos. I love the old saying about trying to be half the person your dog thinks you are.

Wow. I really thought the world would end before I saw anything from Goldberg that made sense. And for May to chime in, too. Just wow.

I'm also wondering who will be the first prominent person to suggest that Hasan should be tortured. See the diary linked at my name.

See the Spencer Ackerman story linked at my name. The story should be read in its entirety.

Corsi is truly scum.

During the hubbub yesterday, I caught one segment with Wolf Blitzer speaking by phone with someone who lived near the base. This person relayed a rumor that a suspect in the shootings had been arrested just off base "at Dollar General". This completely dumbfounded Blitzer. He clearly has no concept of the real world and did not realize that there is discount chain named Dollar General and that it likely would be found just outside any military base -- military pay levels wouldn't exactly support a Neiman-Marcus in the same spot. He seemed stuck on the "General" part and finally just moved on without understanding what she was talking about. If I find a YouTube of that bit I'll post a link.

is the age-old issue of the unreliability of "eyewitness" accounts, especially for highly stressful events. With such a high number of casualties occurring in what appears to have been quite close quarters, it's not at all surprising that those who were there and survived would have come back with widely divergent stories of what they saw.

Of course, building on top of that problem is the tendency of the media to try to fit stories as quickly as possible into an already known narrative. The two competing narratives yesterday were "PTSD in the face of multiple deployments" vs. "boogah boogah now we have terrorists on military bases".

I will admit to following the events closely while trying to fit them into the PTSD story. While the reports of multiple shooters were still "operative", my theory wasn't one of conspiracy, but a prediction that PTSD would have been so prevalent among those preparing for a new deployment that the presence of gunfire in an unexpected venue would have caused the additional "shooters" to have become involved.

Once the purported web postings were disclosed last night, especially in the context of anonymous leaks to AP (Laura Jakes byline) I realized we were going to be in for a very long slog through Hasan's religious and political views. Ironically, it may turn out that NSA's massive database of web traffic will be the route to determining whether the Nidal Hasan who made the postings is also the shooter.

It probably takes seven neocons to one liberal to achieve balance in the number of coherent thoughts expressed per column.

PS: Dang, it looks like Glenn didn't put in an entry for WaPoo's "Next Great Pundit" contest. At least he's not among the finalists listed there. Of course if they published a GG column, they'd probably have to run 25 or 30 neocon columns to achieve balance in the number of coherent thoughts.

Italy has signed the Rome Statute that authorizes the International Criminal Court. Would they consider handing this case off to the ICC for further prosecution? That would set up a very interesting confrontation, given the "American Servicemembers Protection Act of 2002", otherwise known as the "Hague Invasion Act" which allows "all means necessary and appropriate" to free US personnel held by the ICC.

In addition to their realization after the fact that Bloomberg would have been beatable with the appropriate candidate and campaign, the White House no doubt is still miffed at Weiner for his strong advocacy of the public option. Weiner published, on his House website, a list of 150 Republicans who are fighting hard against the public option but for themselves use a government-funded single-payer program for their health care. Such "manning-up" just can't be tolerated when the White House is working so hard behind the scenes to gut the public option.

I think Parker's dissent nailed it.

As for those asking when the coup occurred, my money is on December 12, 2000.