once they have their mind made up, if presented with two sets of contradictary information are prone to beleive the information that supports the conclusion they have already drawn. Some people are better at re-evaluating their position when they receive new information than others, but we are all prone to this sort of behavior. I think that is what happened to Bush.

actively in control of the joint security stations?

Right now I would agree with what Nadar was saying. Neither party has a leaing canidate that will repudidate the roll back of liberties we have experienced, they probably want those powers for themselves. To me this is the most important issue, much more important the war (not that there is a lot of difference on that issue either).

Since the rebublicans seem bent on rolling back civil liberties and the democrats seem bent on not stopping them, is voting for a third party still "throwing your vote away"?

When are you gonna be on Keith Oberman?

Why do you refuse to see that although the "sub-prime debaucle" is a creating some problems, it has been and will continue to be a net benefit for our economy? By the way I am in the 86% of people that got a sub-prime loan and is still paying on time, but may not have been able to get into a home at all under the old lending standards. The sky is not falling.

I don'i beleive it!!!

these guys were talking about Iraq being oner in 6 months. Anyone know when that 6 months is supposed to begin?

"'WE' who? The same 'we' that fucked up Iraq and got us into this horrid mess we're in? That 'WE'?"

Yes that WE.

The cold blooded murder of an elderly man is pretty clear, it is a lot more clear than "should we attack an enemy that we think will attack us before they can hit us?".

When a US citizen was taken from Chicago and held for a couple of years in a navy brig without trial or even charges, did the officers involved do anything? No. Not because the forgot their oath, but because the white house has done everything it could to blur the lines. What is legal or illegal is now very confusing to a lot of people. If this most fundamental right (habius corpus) can be blured, what can't?

If tommorow George Bush said "I am King now, so go open some death camps", then yes he would be stopped. Any reasonably defendable action (like attacking an enemy) would pretty much have to be carried out.

By the way, it wasn't you but someone did freak out.

"Not in court he doesn't. Only in press releases. It's no different from me claiming that the Constitution gives me the right to murder people willy-nilly."

-- Margalis

You can claim the right to do that, but try it and you will be stopped. This president makes claim about what his powers are and excercises those powers, and is almost never stopped.

This president defends all his actions as legal, what general should we allow to interperate the laws?

Whenever I make a crazy statement that I think will elicit a strong response like "I think Al Gore cost Ralph Nader the 2000 election", I get nothing. Make a statement like "the millitary should continue to take orders from elected officials", someone freaks out.

An attack on Iran would be bad news, but in the long run a millitary that does not obey the civilian, elected leadership would be far worse.

If we attack Iran they would probable attempt several strategies of retaliation.

1, They would want to sink a ship in the straights of Hormuz, that would prevent 40% of the worlds oil from comming to market and drive the price way up.

2, As part of our current strategy in Iraq we have a lot of forward bases. These are smaller, some what isolated bases that are more vunrable than the green zone.

3, Either Hesbala or Hamas has an orginazation in South America. There was a large group of immagrants from Iran to south America about 30 or 40 years ago. The people there are native speakers of spanish and some of them can pass for hispanics. Iran would probably try to get some of them to attack. A group of them has already made statements to the effect that if we hit Iran, they will come north (it was on MSNBC.com a few months ago).

now go get the ball...play dead... Whose a good congress...you are that who.

In the end they will do whatever he demands.

Ouch!!!

That is how we beat the british in the revolutionary war. Making your enemy think the fighting will be never ending is how you beat a superior force.

1, Andrew, hope you had a nice vacation.

2, A lot of the "investors" are not just the super rich, they include retirement funds that may very well have some of your money.

3, unlike mortgage debt credit card debt is not backed by something a lender can seize and repay the debt. These may turn into 100% losses.

This will be eaten right up by the media.

This is interesting. I don't think he is being sold to the Iraqis, I think he is being sold to the Americans. It makes sense for us to pick their leaders because Iraq is a Democracy.

all theses people would want to leave.

You have your sign on in the corner. That is not anonymous.

Vote republican because those who refuse to give up liberty for security hate America

"You have to actually have some courage to be able to handle liberty, because you have to be able to live with the fact that a nation dedicated to securing liberties for its citizens is going to be less safe than one that finds notions of liberty and inalienable individual rights bothersome."

You may be safer from some enemies, but a government that gets too much power can be pretty lethal to it's own citizens.