Between Clinton and Obama supporters in this thread and others.

I don't get it.

I support Obama, but if Clinton gets the nom, I'll support her. I'll support the Goodyear Blimp if it's running against McCain.

Sorry, folks. Neither Clinton nor Obama are the bad guys here. Why can't you remember that? For that matter, why can't their campaigns remember that?

Eight years of Republican rule have totally screwed up this country, if not the whole world. Republicans are the bad guys.

COULD WE ALL REMEMBER THAT? In-fighting sucks!

Look everybody, get this through your heads: Patriotism is an easy emotion. Who doesn't love their country? It's like asking, who doesn't love their families? There are a few, but they're the exception.

As a German, the easy patriotism of most right-wingers sticks in my craw. The whole flag-waving crap makes me ill. Look how many horrible things have been done in the name of a flag.

To be a true patriot, you've got to always question your country's motives, stances, government. That's not quite such easy patriotism.

On 9/11, I watched the aftermath of the Twin Towers' collapse on T.V. at my office. I turned to a co-worker and remarked (feeling sick), "This is the result of years of bad foreign policy by the U.S." He nodded.

You guys! Do you really believe we were attacked because "they hate us for our freedoms?" HOW INFANTILE.

Rev. Wright dared to speak the truth in this country. Because it was an "uncomfortable" truth and "put us in a bad light" does not mean it's not the truth.

GROW UP, AMERICA.

P.S. I'm not sure how dense these right-wingers are. But they know an easy target when they see one. Obama's pastor saying "God damn America" is merely an easy target. Be very clear that that's all it is. It's certainly not an unpatriotic statement.

Because a black man is a black man is a black man.

Ah yes, looking into the heart of a Republican, we always see the same thing.

. . .is about as true as Republicans being fiscally conservative. That was the thinking in 1968 anyway.

Perceptions are apparently VERY slow to change in this country.

I agree what many others have already stated: The Dems need to start correcting these misconceptions now, both of McCain and of the Republican Party. Just keep drumming in how fiscally irresponsible the Repugs are, and how ultra- ultra-right McCain really is.

Billy Kristol, who's been wrong on EVERYTHING so far (o.k., I admit to a slight exaggeration -- but can't think of anything where he's been correct). . .

Billy Kristol now resorts to the 50s/60s/70s/80s slur: "Communist."

When the Soviet Union fell, I was SO happy because now right wingers could no longer call everybody they didn't like a communist.

Billy Kristol, the man who's always wrong, has to resort to calling somebody a communist.

LOL!

When one of the three rich finalists wins the $1 million, the telling thing will be what that person does with the money.

I mean, during the whole season the contestants have been talking about how much fun it was to give away money. Yeah, that was somebody else's money, though.

We'll see.

". . .and those in a U.S. manufacturing sector now struggling to stay afloat."

Hmm. Because the Republicans have been so good to our economy.

Santorum pretending the Republican Party cares a wit about working people. Just the usual lie.

And I'm an Obama supporter!

The second half of the ad shows all the things Bushco has done wrong. We need to keep showing this over and over.

You bet it's a tough job, and look how W failed utterly. (Well, except to make his rich friends richer.)

The fact that I think Obama would be better at this job doesn't really matter. As long as it's not McCain, as long as the winner has a D after his/her name: that's all that matters.

Please, please, let's keep showing what the Republicans have been oh so busy doing in the last 8 years. PUHLEEEEEEEZ.

I was recently talking to a co-worker in Kentucky about the presidential race. He told me point-blank that he would never vote for a black man.

Knuckle-dragger? Not really. He's super intelligent and has a PhD. But he'd never vote for a black man (or woman, I assume).

This was just after he finished telling me that he thought W was a dumb f**k.

Here's my solution: From now until November, we have to show people in American all the horrible things the Republicans have done. They had 100% of the power, and look what they did with it. -- For those who don't like to think in the abstract (90% of Americans, I'm afraid), ask them if they're better off now than they were when Clinton was president. If they're not (b)millionaires, the answer has got to be NO.

We just need to drum that fact home, over and over.

Will it convince my co-worker? I don't know. But it will sure give him pause when he votes for McCain.