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Uncle Fester

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Saturday, March 15, 2008 05:40 PM
Original article: Who wants to be a Democrat?

More Obama Delegates?

Anybody get a more eleborate picture about this?

Yes, I ended up on some Iowan newssite while spelunking through Politico (Ben Smith I believe). There's some type of meeting/convention in Iowa as part of the delegate assignment process. Wait, he's a scrape from news.google.com:

Obama Nets Seven Iowa Delegates From Former Edwards Backers

By Eric Kleefeld - March 15, 2008, 8:13PM

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/03/obama_nets_seven_iowa_delegate.php

Saturday, March 15, 2008 05:44 PM
Original article: Who wants to be a Democrat?

Where is the coverage ?

I hope somebody will get on the story soon.

I think you will have to take a number and stand in line. There's been a lot of requests for more coverage lately. I'm sure the editors are listening.

Saturday, March 15, 2008 06:08 PM

@KcM Where do you guys find this stuff???

OK, they are still trailing badly behind McCain. Gonna be hard to beat the McCrusade.

Saturday, March 15, 2008 06:25 PM

the lidless eye

I thought we lost track of that guy after the fall of numenor.

O-BAMA, is a MAC Daddy, indeed!

Saturday, March 15, 2008 06:56 PM
Original article: Who wants to be a Democrat?

Just the facts, Mam

Shawn: Really. You sure you talking HRC.

Orig: So you have no problem with Clinton and his [emphasis added] $450,000 speech in the UAE?

I meant WJC, just to clarify. Some Links:

http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/news/2006/03/hysteria_grips.html

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4176/is_20060312/ai_n16155353

Bill Clinton earned $450,000 from speeches in Dubai, part of the UAE, in 2002, and the UAE has made donations of $500,000 and $1m to fund his presidential library in Arkansas.

Is greed still good?

Saturday, March 15, 2008 08:04 PM
Original article: Who wants to be a Democrat?

yeah, you tell us all about racism, cheeseball.

I think this guy does a better job: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khuu-RhOBDU

(Assist by KcM)

Saturday, March 15, 2008 11:30 PM
Original article: Who wants to be a Democrat?

@Jerm He can scream all he wants in my book.

Really did see your post and thought it was cool. I think we may have to wait out this Rev Wright thing before we return to more mundane things like registering voters.

Saturday, March 15, 2008 11:41 PM

@KateTex

Also: McCain 47% Obama 42% and McCain 46% Clinton 42%. I'm no stats whiz, but it looks like Clinton does slightly better than Obama against McCain.

You're happy now that McCain is winning against both Obama and Clinton?

Here's a Zogby poll showing %5 for Nader, %11 undecided and MoE +/- 3.2

http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/McCain_over_Obama_Clinton/2008/03/15/80707.html

Sunday, March 16, 2008 12:07 AM

@Blue

You didn't like his 3:00am Red Phone ad?

Sunday, March 16, 2008 11:26 AM

Defeat of the Strawman

There is no Mr. Wonderful who walks on water, or Ms.Wonderful for that matter.The problem with Sen. Obama is this flawed strategy of casting him as a savior.When you set the bar that high, you only have one way to go.If people perceive you as the second coming, even minor indiscretions appear major.

This is all very true. And it's true that Obama is a politician who wants to change how politics is conducted. But as far as making him out to be a savior, a messiah, or a cult-leader, I always that was his detractors and his rivals talking that up. And now they can say, he's not a savior, not the messiah. He's still a cult leader, though.

Sunday, March 16, 2008 11:44 AM

@Reality

I am not surprised that most black people agree with Rev. Wright. There has been much hurt in the past and it will take many generations to heal. I personally don't believe that Wright is contributing to the healing, but that is really beside the point and a discussion for another day. The real issue that confronts us today is what you said in your last statement, "Reverend Wright is more genuine than Barack, regardless of what you think of the content of what he said."

I agree with you that it will probably take a more time to work through this. The effects of 400+ years of oppression is not going to vanish overnight, it will take generations. And I also don't think that Rev Wright is now contributing to the healing, much like I don't think Ferraro is helping either. Both of them seem stuck in time, unable to see the changes that they themselves helped bring about, unable to adapt.

But how can you say that Wright is more genuine that Obama? Obama spent a lot of his childhood in Hawaii and outside the US and with his white grandparents. So it' no suprise that he can listen to relics like the Rev Wright but still have a different viewpoint and stil feel the need for a different direction. I've often thought that if politicians went to Kathmandu for a visit sans entourage and saw how the people lived there, they would realize a lot of our divisions are quite petty, and that this country is very, very lucky.

Sunday, March 16, 2008 11:51 AM

@Kate Poll Trends: Nothing to get too excited about

Hi Kate!

If I'm not mistaken, the trends for either dem candidate are tracking downwards, and both faired better against McCain last month. So I consider it a bit of a pyrrhic victory if Hillary is now doing slightly better vis Obama. It may be like arguing about seating preferences on the Titanic.

p.s to Uncle: the Rasmussen poll numbers I posted late last night were not meant to praise McCain, but rather to illustrate that Hillary may have a better chance of burying him in the general.

Sunday, March 16, 2008 11:59 AM

@Kate Sorry

C'mon, I'm surprised that you offered something this disingenuous.

Sorry. It's my honest viewpont. Are you suggesting that I'm a cult follower in denial? I never thought he was other than politician. And you if would read his book, Audacity, you would find out that he doesn't consider himself other than politician either. It's the media hype calling him a rock star, and the Clinton campaign calling him a cult leader.

Is Obama trying to lead a movement? Absolutely.

Obama's campaign was that of carefully crafting an image of a candidate who dwells on a plane far above that inhabited by the common man (one certainly not inhabited by the Rezkos of this world). Obama has often used language and imagery to further this image,

Yes, I know this meme, introduced by NYShooter is fashion de jeure here.

Do you have any examples of such language and imagery?

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