violence against the old man protesting health care who had his finger bit off,

Wasn't that the old man that punched a guy in the face

Punching people in the face. That's just how old protesters roll.

I try to spray a little on every post.

You made sweeping generalizations about a group of people: the so-called 'left-wing', whoever they are, instead of dealing with positions and the individual idiots here (a proud member myself).

So I felt obliged to return with an old school conservative chestnut that contradicts your point #6.

That doesn't mean I believe in that chestnut. It does illustrate my point that a sweeping generalization like that drains all the nuance and intelligence out of a conversation. Just like your bullet points.

Human nature seems to require rules and laws. That doesn't mean that laws will be smart, fair, or just. But not to follow the laws brings chaos. You mentioned prohibition, which was also on my mind. We have that chaos now with the drug laws and the narco wars in Mexico.

Why don't we get beyond the soft on crime sound bytes and the libtard/repugtard name calling to actually do something about it?

6. If someone says the rule of law is not absolute; they are fascists

If you don't believe in the rule of law, doesn't that make you soft on crime?

See how that works? If all you've got are slogans and sound bytes, then we're not going to get very far.

Though I know a killer Falafel Palace inside of an old white castle. Turkish dudes I know sometimes serve Falafel with some (home made) yogurt garlic sauce instead of Tahini.

Nice falafel sandwich with a good cucumber garlic yogurt sauce?

Keep saying we need to get a fryer...

Now we're talking. Just like grandmother used to serve. With cabbage of course. Weather's cooling off and that's just the ticket. I know this dive place off Route 2 in my neck of the woods, the guy has lots of polish specialties including perogies.

Outstanding food, weighing in at about 5,000 calories a portion.

Yes, I know a little about Poland being a bit of a football between the Great Powers.

But you're really off on the missile defense program. A little of teh google will reveal a lot of viable questions about this program from (mostly) credible sources over the years. Including this one today:

Critics of the Bush system have long said it addressed a threat that didn't exist, using missiles that might not work. The system was aimed at shooting down long-range ballistic missiles, which Iran is not expected to have until at least 2015, according to arms-control experts. The system was not intended to deal with Iran's medium-range missiles, which are currently capable of hitting Turkey and the edge of Europe.

In addition, the two-stage missiles that were supposed to be based in Poland as part of the Bush-era shield plan have not been tested.

As described by Gates and his top generals, Obama's new missile defense plan will unfold in three stages. By 2011, the Pentagon will deploy Navy Aegis ships equipped with SM-3 interceptors in the eastern Mediterranean.

A second phase in about 2015 will field an upgraded, land-based SM-3 in allied countries, and discussions are underway with Poland and the Czech Republic on basing the missiles in their territory, Gates said. In 2018, the third phase will deploy a larger and more capable missile, which will allow the missile defense shield to defend Europe and the United States against short- and intermediate-range rockets, and eventually, intercontinental ballistic missiles.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/09/17/AR2009091700639_2.html?sid=ST2009091701841

Also this article goes on the mention that the Russians aren't that happy as they don't really see a fundamental altering of the status quo. It's pretty sad state of affairs when what they are saying has more credibility than what McCain or Romney are saying.

Additionally you may want to look at this GAO report on Missile Defense:

http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d09856.pdf

Both Sec Def Gates and the Pentagon think there is a better approach.

This whole 'missile defense' strategy has been a boondoggle. It's unproven and it's testing record is poor. It's a waste of about $8 billion a year.

10 interceptor missiles aren't going to prevent the re-occupation of Poland. You need a bunch of tank divisions for that. We still have NATO.

Not to mention the fact that the Czechs did not like having a radar installation on their soil for this project.

The budget for the Chamber of commerce is puny. And I've been involved in those types of things. I'd didn't find it very ideological, though I suppose somebody could turn selling widgets into that.

It's about the Money. I'm on Team Fester (the grey team?). If Acorn and/or it's employees have broken laws, then they should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

I'm still waiting for the explanation as to why the proportionate corresponding outrage is lacking for the billions gone missing in Iraq, the no bid contracts that continue, etc.

Go ahead and complain about the ants behind the fridge, but don't ignore the neighbor who's stealing the beer out of it.

Why don't you get a modern browser like Chrome then?

It will spellcheck your mighty proclamations with squiggly red lines.

www.google.com/chrome

Comparing the non-deployment of a limited non-working missile system to the WWII agreement to let the Red Army occupy Eastern Europe? A system allegedly deployed against a non-existent Iranian missile threat? A system that wouldn't do squat to forestall any threat from the real danger, Russia?

Of course some of the Poles are crying. They are going to have to find a free lunch elsewhere. Weren't you the guy lecturing us on the deficit the other day?