P.S. They're not given -- not by you, not by me, not by any government, not by any religion. They are not yours, mine or anyone else's to give. They're inalienable.
Are you a monarchist? Or just a normal everyday fascist? -- Michael Harold

What exactly does inalienable mean for you? Do North Koreans or women in the ME have those rights? Of course not. How about people ruled by the Taleban or those in Darfur? I don't think so. Needless to say, if you were to declare those rights to the warlords of Sudan on behalf of their people, you'd never again see the light of day. Just because our forefathers won our rights from George III and our fathers preserved our rights in WW2, that doesn't mean you're special, just a lucky accident of birth.

Damn it all!
But let's be clear here. Eavesdropping, wiretapping, listening to conversations is NOT datamining. Hayden makes the distinction clearly no matter how much Glenn wants to not look foolish. We've already had the datamining conversation. Nobody seems to think that linking telephone numbers is illegal.

As for what else could be discussed, how about the item in the WSJ that talks about how conversations overseas, that do not originate, or end, in the US, can pass through the US... possibly making those types of calls "domestic" in the legal sense. What is the proper call in that instance?

In short, unless Glenn thinks that all intelligence activities, methods, and agents, should be discussed in public it's probably time to throttle back and find something else to obsess about. Just like the Swift Banking leak it turns out that the reality is disappointingly different than the left is hoping for.

Too bad, so sad, this fad, is mad. Heh.

Look folks, this is getting out of hand. Grocery stores have more personal information about you than the NSA, but there will be no greater, more intrusive data base, than that collected in the name of universal healthcare.

The government will have total knowledge of your whereabouts, family members, habits, and diseases. They will know your income and employment. They will know everything. And you're worried about your phone number? Please. If you have AIDS, it will be public knowledge. Infectious disease patients will be quarantined. Sudden weight gain or smoking will deprive you of care.

Get real people, this is very small potatoes compared to what some people really want from you. And it's very likely you will happily had over your entire history with a smile on your face.

Never before in my lifetime have I ever seen such crimes being committed in the open with commentaries of the corruption going on in particular as it takes place.If these things do not lead to major investigations in both the white house and the department of injustice by congress with criminal incitements following for the arrest of top officials as the law breakers they are then we as a country are doomed.--Some person that is too lazy to devise a fake name

I love the sound of liberal hypocrisy in the morning. Tinfoil is on aisle five.

Excuse me? Where is the outrage that accompanied Plame's outing? Tsk.

Anyone who wants to report illegal and unconstitutional activities to Congress must be a Democrat in shooter's eyes.

Ah yes, the Judge and Jury has spoken! Heh. The truth is that you have no idea what in all this is illegal or un-Constitutional. All you know, or care about is that there is something that might reflect badly on the administration. Like the Plame case where no crime was prosecuted, just fishing for a perjury trap.

I have no doubt this will end up in similar fashion while Democrats hold themselves to a lesser standard than Republicans. Tsk. As always, IOKIYAD.

Gosh it must be. Explain to me again how it is that Plame's status as a CIA employee never figured into the investigation? Or how Russert was believable but Libby wasn't?

It is indeed so confusing. Like the US Atty firings for instance. How is it that it's illegal? Oh it isn't? You mean like outing Plame by Armitage wasn't prosecuted? Well gee, then why are all those Democrat Senators getting all red in the face. Because Gonzales didn't lie after all? Does this mean Democrats are just trying to find something, anything, to criminalize? Why would they do that? Heh.

Pull the shades, bar the door, hide under the bed. Heh.

Williams is unique only in the fact that he was exposed and actually admitted to his egregious breach of journalistic ethics (although he did lamely attempt to rationalize it).

Well then, that explains how he ended up on Air America in the mornings.

Bribery is the most rational explanation for those pundits who continue to defend the indefensible and excuse the inexcusable. -- JackHughes

Certainly nothing else could explain it. Heh.