Men's movements are misinterpreting and falsifying data to advance their agenda? Wow, feminists NEVER do that!

Yes, and it's important to call people on whatever misinterpretation/exaggerations/falsifications they may be guilty of. Please do so.

What I am sad about in Ms Berman's post is not so much the claims she makes, but the lack of real evidence. It's not difficult to find evidence of which MRA groups are fringe, and what they say, and why it's wrong. More moderate people like Sacks say things even Ms Berman can agree with -- she even linked to his website -- which should make people think, as far as I'm concerned, about the need to get more real evidence and judge it objectively before jumping to conclusions.

But the problem is that gender relations are so 'in' in our culture at present that people just have to jump to conclusions based either on their personal experience or the first study that meets their eyes (1 in 3 raped!). The same is true for racial relations (remember The Bell Curve?).

Where are the people who actually want to read on this stuff, think about it, look at the studies, and actually offer a good, well-rounded opinion about the current situation?

I had never heard of The Spearhead until you mentioned it, and I support gun control.....maybe I should paint you into the corner with...I dunno Valerie Solanas ?

You see--it does feel bad when someone stereotypes you and thinks s/he knows "who you are" immediately, doesn't it?

You shouldn't do it to feminism and feminists either. Look at who says what you don't agree with, and respond to that person, institution, etc. Don't overgeneralize, or else why should you complain about someone overgeneralizing about you?

If a white person of the KKK tells you that you that white people have civil rights too and that the Courts are bias toward minorities because of wrongs done to them in the past, what would you said? Yes, I would join the KKK?

If this person can give examples, reliable statistics, etc. supporting his claims, of course I would listen. The point, of course, is that they can't. Just check their links.

Which doesn't mean that there aren't issues in racial relations that are not as easily solved as liberalism would want it to be. There are.

In the MRA case, even Ms Berman in her post distinguishes fringe cases from more moderate voices. The latter would mention a number of pieces of evidence in favor of their claims, not simply anecdotal cases as you're likely to find in a KKK website.

NO FEMINIST EVER SAYS THIS. This is a horrible, evil abusive, slanderous lie!! Feminists ALL say that men and women are not inherently different and so men can be the same as women and therefore not be pure evil. It's all the fault of the patriarchy.

None of the feminists I know says what you're claiming either, dick.

See the problem with not naming names? We create new stereotypes. You're setting yourself up for further problems for those situations in which your claim isn't true.

(For example: if feminists thought simply that men should be the same as women, why would they encourage women to work? When feminism started, being at home was feminine. If all feminists wanted was for men to be like women, they should have encouraged men to stop working. Of course it's absurd, but it follows from your claim. Which is the problem.)

To make it unacceptable for men to EVER respond to ANYTHING a woman does, (unless she hits him first) is the essence of the entire movement against domestic violence.

There is some truth in what you're trying to say here, but there's also a lot of exaggeration. Just as in the opposite claim: that men basically can do whatever they want, and women either have to put up with it or shut up.

One example: one thing a man can do to react to what a woman does to him: he can tell her how much he disliked it, and then walk away. Leave the scene. Leave her life, if need be. There is, however, some feeling in (some parts of) American society that say this wouldn't be 'manly' or 'virile'.

Because groups that AREN'T fringe don't need to engage respectfully with all their detractors. Anti-racism activists don't need to have respectful debates with people who think racism is legitimate.

There I disagree with you, Emily. I think debate is ALWAYS a good idea. What should happen is that the arguments against the ideas of fringe groups -- which usually are many, obvious, and crystal clear -- should be clearly presented. Yes, anti-racism activists do need to have respectful debaqtes with people who think racism is legitimate -- and these debates should be easy, because the reasons to be against racism are indeed quite compelling, and simply laying them out makes the racism defenders look silly. (Just have a look at some White Supremacist websites to see what I'm talking about... the amount of paranoia they have to swallow in order to even look superficially as if they were being rational...)