Letters to the Editor
Villemar
Published Letters: 349
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It's The Electability, Stupid
[Read the article: Paris goes big for Hillary Clinton]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]And I thought Republicans had a monopoly on Not Thinking Ahead.
Really, Democrats would have to try really hard to lose 2008 after eight years of the Worst President Ever. Nominating Hillary seems to be the only way to do this, the only thing that can unify a fragmented GOP.
Look what happened in Iowa, young people were motivated to support Obama by an over 60% margin, voting was up something like 180% above the all-time high. New Hampshire he was up about six points on all votes that an actual human being looked at.
If we nominate Hillary:
- We'll have another Lesser of Two Evils election
- All the wingnuts will come out of the woodwork. Remember how bad it was under Bill. Now imagine that times 50. Already my local Craigslist is ruined by mouthbreathers who post unflattering Clinton pics and snarky slogans literally 24/7.
- You will alienate Progressives
- You will alienate young people en masse.
- You will alienate the third of Americans who identify themselves as neither Republican or Democrat.
Look, she may be sweet as pumpkin pie and turn out to be the Best President Ever. But do you really want to make that bet on a candidate with such high negatives? If you are in Vegas, do you play a sucker's bet game with horrible odds just because you like the picture on the top of the machine?
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@Smith
[Read the article: Paris goes big for Hillary Clinton]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]Progressives will have nowhere else to go if Clinton is the nominee. Progressives will not stay home. They will turn out en masse to get rid of the Republicans no matter which of the current Democratic candidates is nominated. True progressives understand this and they have concerns other than just the Iraq War. Many Iraq War opponents are not true conservative. Many of them voted for Ron Paul today. Neither will war opponents (a substantial and growing number of Americans vote for a Republican who supports the war. They will either stay home or they will (even those who don't like Hillary or Obama or Edwards) hold their nose and vote Democratic. One issue war opponents have nowhere else to go.
On young people: We have been trying to Rock the Vote for a long time now. Older voters are more dependable voters than young people. If they are true progressives they will vote Democratic. If they are not, we never had them anyway. If so many young people are for Obama, can you please explain to me why so many of them are also for Ron Paul -- an old guy?
You have not proved your last point. You cannot prove your last point.
"You have nowhere else to go" is not exactly the best motivator, don't you think?
And by alienating young people, I don't mean the candidate's physical age, I mean the same old same old, the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton familial dynasties that they have known all their lives. They see Obama and Paul as representing real change. Whether real or not, it's what they perceive.
Of course I can't prove that a third of Americans (intependents and the apolitical) will be alienated by Clinton, it's just my rough projection based on my observations over my lifetime.
It's just common sense, but don't believe me, go ahead and buy a ticket on the Unsinkable Titanic and find out for yourself.
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Oh and one other thing...
[Read the article: Paris goes big for Hillary Clinton]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]If Hillary is the nominee expect the ultra-left Naderites to come back (although I don't know who they'll support this time around). You'll see lots of giant "Clinton=Romney" giant paper-mache heads, lots of screaming trustafarians, and probably big protests at the Dem convention. I thought we were rid of those assholes after 2000, but you will have given them all a reason to come back into existance again.
I don't really get this big Hillary support. I suppose it is a desire for Restoration? Well if you were really Restorationists you'd write in Al Gore or petition to get him on the ballot, after all he did win the 2000 Election.
If Clinton is the nominee I'll probably write in Al Gore myself.
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Actually....
[Read the article: Paris goes big for Hillary Clinton]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]I'm an Edwards supporter myself. But, since unfortunately he seems unviable at this point, my 2nd choice is Obama. I actually want to win in November, so I am being pragmatic. I think nominating Hillary is a bad idea. Why risk it? You know it won't be easy with Hillary as the nominee. I don't like those odds one bit.
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Edwards v. Clinton?
[Read the article: The knives come out in South Carolina]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]I only caught this about halfway through, but the impression I was left with was that very nasty exchange about lobbyists at the end between Edwards and Clinton. That stuck with me, not anything about Obama being a big meanie. He looked cool, and I liked his comment about him needing to see Bill Clinton dance before he could tell if Bill was a brother or not. I love Obama's sly sense of humor.
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Impression I get from Clinton: Me, Me, Me
[Read the article: The knives come out in South Carolina]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]They say a good writer or public speaker restrains his or her usage of the word "I" or "Me." It seems to me that whenever I hear Clinton, it's always about her; whereas with Edwards and Obama I get the impression that it's more about "we."
I guess we'll see if we are going to become a "we" society again, or nominate another Narcissist In Chief.
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@skylark
[Read the article: The knives come out in South Carolina]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]Sorry, but she comes across as a complete narcissist. That's the image part and yes, it does matter. On the issues she's a thousand times better than any Republican, but when she comes across as "how dare you people challenge my coronation!" it turns a lot of people off. It is smug and obnoxious. Not saying Obama or Edwards are perfect but I don't get that sense from them.
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@show me
[Read the article: The knives come out in South Carolina]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]Stop whining about comments made a year ago by Obama about how he is tired of old 60's ideological battles still being fought in Washington, which you whiny boomers take as a horrible attack on your generation. Boo hoo, get over yourselves. You people are such self-absorbed narcissists, no wonder you love Hillary so much.