To "that" I say let Americans speak to the GOP in the upcoming elections--to see just how much destruction GW, Mac, and Leibenstein do to themselves...

That'll leave cocky Joe with no place to run for cover..a minority.

To chastise or hammer Leibenstein now is pointless--It only empowers the GOP to point a stick in the eyes of Dems--while Joe Leibenstein struts around like a peacock..

I say why make him or his ego that relevant.

When it comes to a choice of trying to cripple Joe or the GOP--it's much easier/use of energy to take on the entire GOP at this point in history over Joe..

Once Dems cut the GOP tree down with Joe thinking he's safely tucked on one of the branches....

it all falls..

See GG? I HAVE thought about it..But for people to think it'll happen overnight is a mistake...Little by little, a chop at a time...

It's not about getting rid of just ONE of them who chooses to glorify his own ego...it's about getting rid of ALL of them who still want to continues Bushs' disastrous/inept/corrupt policies of this country on torture, wiretapping,Halliburton, Iraqi Oil contracts, KBR,Blackwater...

and that includes Bluedogs..

Little by little people are waking up and that does NOT bode well for the GOP (or the Bluedog flea-Liebbags..)or those who continue Bush/Cheney policy.

Look @ Loisiana where a Dem took a Senate seat(Cazayoux) over a GOP-held seat for 33 years...

If that's not a "who'd a THUNK it?"-as in the ax hitting the tree-I don't know what is..

Those Southern states can be flipped in upcoming years--as the hardcore fundies eventually die-off.

That can only be doen-if we get Dems in (like Barack Obama)-who don't want to punish the GOP for GW's bad policies..

It's one of the reasons I'm against HRC-who wants to continue Rovian divisive politics.

Obama is bringing in new Dems/young voters in droves--to establish that longterm strategy of holding Democratic seats and even turning red to blue by NOT playing politics as usual.

The key for voters everywhere is to pay close attention to those upcoming elections in their own states..

I am still distrustful of the Clinton-wing of the DNC who want to get thier own "Blue-dog policy" candidates primaried over other Dems..

This is why I hope Dems in ALL states do their homework-do plenty of oppo research on Democratic candidates to be sure there are no Leibenstein surprises(Blue-dogs).

Make them state thier positions early--even if they are in red areas.

I'm not saying give the rot of the GOP a pass.

But I also don't think all of the GOP is rotten to the core either.

They have thier moderates too-which is a big divide your gonna start seeing once more focus is put on Mac..

While the Dems have thier divides within thier own party w Blue dogs--the GOP does also w moderates V Limbaugh neos.

I just don't choose to see all people/all parties as "rotten to the core". I think there are some who can work across the aisle..

06 got rid of Santorum & Arizona Senator (forget his name)..

So the purgings' begun already..Many GOP are retiring now-

and voters have decided for themselves who the worst water-carriers of Bush/Cheney policies.

A Democratic President or both Houses doesn't need to punish all of the GOP--I believe voters will do the work for them eventually.

I know-because they already have.

You seem to claim that because Dems or Liberals who are passionate about thier cause--are somehow untrustworthy becaue of it..

You really don't get the ruse by your own party do ya?

By faking somehting like HAVING facts or KNOWING anything about strategy--you and other GOP viewers just completely have let the outcome of those little details like NO wmd, no decrease in violence due to surge-NO "Mission Accomplished", Blackwater killing civilians, torture, detaining men and kids with NO TRIALS...

But it's those damn liberals who want to raise their voice about the facts---that-TO YOU-just don't come off as believable..

As long as the GOP can talk the talk(water carriers)-but not walk the walk(like winning a war, making our country safer, give a fair deal to the Iraqis for oil, quit killing innocent iraqis)--you're fine with that....

UN-FRiGGIN Believable.

Why don't don't you and other GOPers who DON'T WALK the WALK like the over 4,000 men & women who've died thus far-with no end in sight because of the GOP screwup that is this war--get a dose of reality..

And No, Shooter- guns aren't more important than a human life-no matter what the NRA or the Pentagon spin artists say.

Those water-carrying propagandists are not only liars to to Americans-they are law-breakers in violation of the Hatch Act..

DOJ all over again??

FDA all over again?

EPA all over again?

IOG all over agian?

It's too bad the Cheney/GOP/GW cabal are more concerned with playing politics within the borders of Washington while ignoring,disrespecting, and insulting the intelligence of the rest of the country and the world.

We get it already GOP.

And soon you're gonna get it.

Hatch Acts aren't the only laws violated be these propagandists:

Crimes agianst humanity

High Crimes and misdemeanors

treason-by lying to the public about facts on the ground to which thier claimed ignorance of is NO excuse.

Mounting an aggressive war--in direct violation of using the military to DEFEND this country.

(And in direct violation of actually making our national security MORE dangerous-NOT LESS)

Incompetence

Oh, and "I dunno" is not a valid reason/excuse.

It's their JOB to know.