I also was moved by Os' speech to appeal to the belief in Americas better angels.

Optimistic? Delusional thinking?

I don't think so....

I think that's why this moment in time is so critical for a leader like Sen Obama to seize upon.

He knows his strengths,his faith,his mind, his heart...and is not willing to compromise to play the silly rhetoric games that the msm tries to frame political discourse on.

He rises above it...and pundits don't know what or how to confound it-which is pretty amusing..

It's the msm that's behind the 8-ball on htis-and they have O's back..

Because it's been a very long time when anyone-much less a politician--is willing to place his faith in Americans and believe in Americas' goodness--over taking the msms' view that

we NEED govt to make dreams come true or have hope about the future..

He doesn't want to feed and prey on peoples' fears---and thus divide people to keep them enabled to higher powers (govt./corporate America)like the mssm does---he challenges people to take a look at thier own fears and face them head on,to rid ourselves of all the past baggage of battles fought ,prejudices, longstanding emotional scars--as a unified force to move forward and tackle the REAL problems of a nation--rather than divided, or preyed upon by the distractions of egoistic/intellectual debate..

I must confess to not reading through 20+ pages of comments-but judging from the past(your comments)I felt the need to jump in.

For over 6 mos. at least (since I've been reading)-your defense of the Bush policy in Iraq has been "well wasn't Saddam worse".

well let me lay it out for ya-you narrowminded jerk.

Saddam has been dead how many years now? How many more GOP stupid, McCain mantras of "100 more YEARS" are you gonna subscribe to?

When is the reality of the cost of the war and our economic predicament now gonna resonate with you?

Don't think it's related??

REAAALLLY???

I suspect the family of an American soldier killed senselessly in Iraq since Saddam was executed--may feel that brunt a little more forcefully than you...

But rather than thinking about your glory days--about how war makes you think you are the studs on the block---how 'bout thinking about the reality of a human life being taken-and what that impact of human life COULD HAVE BEEN.

Easy to say when you are alive and playing armchair QB huh???

Easy to disassociate those empathetic feelings if you're generally an uncaring person who views war as a video game through the tunnel-vision of firepower over human thinking, feeling lives..

Such stupidity breeds stupidity.

More likely they were never there to begin with..

I couldn't get through the whole article without your side-by-side comparisons

"we need to get Syria to stop this shit".

"the bullshit needs to stop"...

That really sums up the neocon agenda at this point...

The neocons like Kagan, Kristol, or Kraut aren't even trying to spin this the way they used in Rummy-speak (up is down, black is white....blah,blah, blah)to offer any kind of plan..

They're like a centipede that keeps growing feet to shoot.

so we get "this shit needs to stop"...

4000 of our troops and the remaining troops deserve a better answer than this..

I bet they would like the shit to stop more than anyone.

that until this country revisits 911

puts all of the lies and coincidences up in a police lineup for Americans & the world to see---we will only endanger ourselves and our future.

911 gave the Pres corrupted powers to use all technology available to it in the last 40 years to overpower it's citizens with.

To essentially enslave us.

Cheney,by 911, has made all of the public slaves to govt. technology..

Cheney conspired with oil,defense companies, telecoms, msm...and others to do so..the PNAC agreement all but spells that out and admits the'guilt of all the signers..

If the public does not "nip this in the bud" (911)-it will only ensure further "false flag" ops (my belief of what 911 is)

to take even more of it's citizens rights away to convert this nation to a corporate autocracy-replete with price-gouging,robbing..of its' citizens.

That's why it's so important and critical that we don't let the snark of "oooh conspiracy theorists!" deter us from combing back over the rubble and lies of 911 to form a case of motive and players who are guilty. Somehow I don't think they died on the planes that day..

Look at who benefitted from it, read the rhetoric before 911, look at the actions of those involved that day, look at the secret energy meetings, look at GW's relationship to the Bin Laden fam, Look at Enrons'bus dealings prior to 911 in Mideast,...and piece it all together in one coherent/cohesive way.

Until we do this-expect more false flag ops and more of your rights to erode completely til there is no more Constitution.

It's THAT necessary.