I go back on forth on your philosophy of sawing the legs off V.kicking it over.

Actually the Dems have made progress-a little at a time. Then they keep backtracking-plus with the Feinstein plants of the party-that keep holding us all back from any real change in this country. Maybe all the old-fart CEOs from bigoil in their River Oaks homes, the Harrimans, the Walkers, the Rockefellers,Browns will finally die off to release us all from thier capitalistic fascist grips(calling the shots from the background). Don't know if I can wait for that though.

I think with Rudys' run at the Presidency all "conspiracy theories" as the GOP would like to say-SHOULD be back on that table. Maybe that's the necessary weight we need for that table to come down. Otherwise, if it isn't discussed-we as a nation are not on the same page.I'm a big believer in "the truth will set you free" philosophy. Open old wounds? Sure it will-but if you never learn the lesson from a mistake-you'll keep repeating that "mistake".

How many more innocent countries am I willing to let my country invade in my name?

How many of the younger generation that I see playing out in the streets in thier carefree way, am I willing to send off to more "perpetual wars" in the mideast?

None, Nada, Zilch..

How many more liberties am I willing to see whittled away, a little at a time-not only for my generation but for future ones?

You got it 0.

The clock is ticking-and it's make or break time. At what point does that giant shift take place from democracy to fascism? As people are pitted against each other-blacks, then Hispanics, then Middle Easterners,....who's next......til finally it's our own shadow we're afraid of.

Meanwhile that rhetoric further amped on the right to shift the process even further...watch the debates the other night:

ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS.....Lou Dobbs has really amped it up in the last month or so too.

Unless the left starts being as equally forceful and vocal to counter that bigotry and hatespeech-we're going to be responsible for taking away the future of generations for the "American Dream" as we will all be assembled into some subvertive pecking order for the benefit of the capitalists working behind the scenes. Haven't notice that wages have stagnated for the middle class in the last 7 years-even going backwards? No coincidence. Or the allowance of foreigners-Asian, German, Indian scientist, engineers-hired at lower wages-thus lowering the entire field. Or letting more and more foreign students in colleges on visas? Immigration even-the GOP had Congress and has had the Presidency-and have done nothing to seal borders or clamp down on businesses using illegal hiring practices. So now they want to claim they are concerned? yeah right. These little drip,drip,drip...of things add up, I think, to a bigger plan---to create divisiveness at whatever time its' needed/wanted.

While we can all see how this WH has used "war on terror" as a euphemism for taking away civil liberties in order to privatize everything for corporate whores,torturing, eavesdropping...Halliburton is building more and more prisons "for illegals". They are also taking the Constitution-parsing words and making up words-EO--todissassemble it,piece by pieece. At what point does one decide-and who decides that it's been disassmeled enough to create chaos? The Prez, ya think? after the chaos then what-martial law? A new Constitution? Who would be the one making that ya think?

while some may think this can happen here--Look around-it already has.

Maybe the truth is what is needed to "shock' enough people back to reality.

There is an antidote to that cut n' paste syndrome of yours-

It's called thinking for yourself.

fwiw:

The number of 600,000 Iraqi deaths was one I'd found in a UK report-either the Times or The Guardian over a year ago. I've yet to see any numbers provided by any US publications.

Unfortunately even after that again, the Pentagon changed their reporting of Iraqi deaths as the public found out in the Petraeus report (fudged numbers).

I'll be good-had my fun for the day!

Just practicing my takedown moves for the WWF.

Interesting..I've never known bowling allys to have ice cream.......just cheap draft beer....but ok.

But sometimes a high-energy electron can become a free-radical and knock everything (low energy) out of her path.

Look at the stories that have broken just this week alone.

Guiliani expenses for mistress showing up under other expense accounts.

-Giuliani security company having ties to terrorists in Quatar.

-Roger Ailes/Fox giving Reagan the boot to shut her up.

Not to mention:

-using torture techniques as a prosecutor

-Bernard Kerick having mob ties.

-promoting a Priest who was a child molester.

Other obvious:

-kids won't even vote for him.

-wanted to move his mistress into house while still married.

-most of the firefighters and first responsers to 911 dislike him/the job he did on 911 (radios...)

At what point can he keep glossing over collectively, ALL of these things?

I don't understand why the Fox story is not a bigger deal than it is.

It is the epitomy of the msm being propagandized-by not only grooming him for a run at the WH as a longterm plan-by giving him plenty of media coverage-but by intentionally trying to go after anyone with stories about Giuliani(Reagan)to shut them up.