You misinterpret what I write.

Yes I beleive it was the Tim Learys' of the hippie era that allowed men like Nixon to gain the upper hand in the fight. (Drugs, sex..) But I also said-these were people who took the view of drugs to thier most extreme-and never made the case for why they were FOR it-only those they were AGAINST(govt.) anyone that opposed it. An extreme view in itself-that Leary could not possibly think he could get moderates on board with such a viewpoint. I love John Lennon, and think he was a great model for what he was trying to do en message-and the right was threatened by this(and threatened to deport him.)I'm not for giving out drugs to everyone-but I do think there should be a way for people to figure out thier own minds' workings, the universe and natures workings---on thier own to find personal happiness. Nixons and Wallstreets reaction showed the paranoia(unfounded)and greed of what thier real motives were-in thier portrayals of anti-war Vietnam demonstrators as "those dirty effing hippies". The prowar generating media and corporate structure put it down-by the left easily gave them ammo by hero-worship of Leary and other extremists.The public then, without the nets to find the truth, had to take sides without knowing the full story of what either side was about or trying to achieve. Had the nets been around then, and the choices of consumerism V personal happiness,free choice, and peace (what I think the hippy movement was REALLY trying to achieve)--it may be a much better/different world now.

not saying one professor had the power to do that-I'm saying the LABELS of an establishment(gov/msm) who was afraid of him-were allowed to STICK all these years, without challenging it..

I don't take drugs-even for antibiotics or other things-I'll take colloidal silver, eyebright,vitamins..

and it think the hysteria about many "illegal" substances are unfounded/overblown.

(Can't recall who it is on here who always talks about this..)

Be...Sorry if you are hurting today(something in one of your early am posts).

Hope it subsides for ya.

Light.

I agree with ya-especially on the nudity thing.

BUT.....

Having a teen daughter in short skirts is making me relive all of that!lol

I know it's really just me being tested right now as she gets more independent thinking....if she's anything like me-I'm in for it!

I'm still navigating the whole "independent" thing-trying to pick the battles that really matter for her safety/security..

and not about showing control/authority.

You've had several yourself and have grans-so I guess you really don't want to go back! (Not that I blame ya.lol)

http://www.sptimes.com/News/102900/Business/Influence_and_bailout.shtml

just fyi-this is new info at Raw Story today on Bhutto killing.

yep I've read about Reviving Ophelia-may have to make a trip to library soon.

feel like I need to get a tatoo on my hand or somewhere visible to me "listen, listen, listen"

I try to---but hard not to let your own experiences get projected.

sorry wanted to go back and reread article on Bhutto.

I found Teethm.s' vid-no, not vid--stills from the vid that were taken day of her shooting. I didn't see how-when he was holding his arm-straight up-but aimed Bhuttos way--could have made that shot. I heard 2 shots-bomb goes off jsut after.

-Saw another vid about Mush. cleaning up site 1 hour after killing. I could not beleive that one.

-then the meeting with Specter & Kennedy about voting tampering. Read that Bhutto had info that the roles and names on the roles were being duplicated=which would disqualify voters-(btw-Who's paying attention to that here in US?)

and that they filling out provisional ballots themselves.(ISI)

-Bhutto- I think, fingered an ex-ISI chief (wondering if it was same guy supposedly who was at Pentagon week before 911 and had wired Atta $100,000-just the day before)(another discussion for another time!)

-then the MD saying he had not seen such injuries before-that's why he thought it was from laser.-not sure I believe that anymore, but the amount of blood from 2 wds seems suspicious)I do know and found US was working on lasers(had in 03) and that Israel has. The report I found from 03-looked very big though. But I do wonder about another shooter (after all, the CIA since Kennedy has had time to perfect that ruse).

Personally, I think there are 2 factions of the CIA-parts of it have been privately funded by Bush buddies. Watergate tapes reveal GW (41) covering over the checks which had been paid to the "plumbers"(who were put in Miami to spy and incite Cubans against Castro).Those checks were funneled through South America and were some of GHB 41s' Texas buds).

There's tons more to see how crooked---my point-is that I think Cheney who has stood on the sidelines watching what 41 did-has taken on that role and put his own peeps in now.

Sorry to go off but when anyone says CIA-I see 2 factions-one rotten to the core and the cause of many problems in the world(except the military complex).