If the WH gets info from the WH that they say is "off the record" as compared to on-what does that mean? Is it that no source is cited? But the info is?

This is why it has been entirely too easy for the Bush/Cheney WH to play the media- they always say-"a source" says.....it's obvious that the WH is and always has been guilty of violations of free speech-even among it's own govt.

But that's obvious-because they have contempt for anyone who does not go along with thier "New World Order" Plan of globalization. They give little, no, or absolutely ridiculous claims about what Americans can see with thier eyes.At some point Americans should be allowed to challenge that and have the info they request-given. Maybe the press long ago-should have taken the WH to court.

http://www.navy.mil/search/display.asp?story_id=34212

this story just in AFTER the "skirmish" with Iran.

CNN had posts up too, about the guys on the boats started dropping boxes overboard-so I'm wondering if these "Iranian fastboats" were military at all. Sounds like if you were just running goods-then you may drop your load-don't know why Iranian military would.

Also the above article is about an entirely new event, that the news is quick to say is not related to the skirmish in the Gulf-of 2 fighter planes that collided(they came from one of the carriers too.)

Again,hard time not seeeing these as related.

WH backing off thier claims-just issuing warning.

I agree with ya. I think it was real too.

It was actually refreshing to see her as human and not so micromanaged.

But I did watch MSNBC & CNN report on it-they weren't that callous like Limbaugh.,Hannity...

That doesn't surprise me though---I can't figure out if some people just have no soul or the soul goes dead-suffocates-after being smothered so much disconnect from actual feelings. I imagine being a chronic drug user like Limbaugh makes it just easier to live with himself.(not so for the rest of us)

Sorry meta-jacked here.

But it's just one of the things about this day and age that is so disgusting to me in what they exhibit--

How did that mind close up so much?

How did they become the worst version of themselves that they could possibly be-and take pleasure in it?

Do they even know what or why they stand for things-or do they have to be told?

How did they become so insecure and scared of everything-

that any display of emotion by anyone is foreign to them?

You are probably right. I don't want to give anyone the impression my parents were bad or abusive. I went to private Cath. school and had an u. middle class upbringing. A really good childhood. But what I came to realize (in my own self-imposed exile to figure out life!)that they were just doing what all other boomer parents were doing.It was also when mass consumerism came in-when I think, we(the US) sold her soul for "things" with the massive media selling it as equating to happiness. Guys, I do think had it worse-even w/o abuse-just always thinking "peewee" sports and football teams were more important than family/connecting and instilled competion to fuel that & consumerism as ego-what you drove,competed in=self.

I don't know if it's worse-just a different perspective from women-so it's a perspective I'll never fully get(men).Just my observation.So people weren't entirely to blame on the choices-they were being manipulated by media/politics/oil-even then.

I've said it before, that rebellion in the 60s for an alternate way of life-drugs,sex,....wasn't entirely wrong in what it wanted to achieve. The extremists in that group hijacked the era,(my opinion)to make it unpalatable for any moderate voices to join. I hope now we could possibly ask ourselves collectively as a nation-to possibly go back and revisit the "enlightenment" time(60) that never fully took off

to find a compromise.

D-great song, love Bruce.

LWM I think you may be right about McCain. I keep thinking he's the more less-frightening of all of them. Then he goes and sings "Bomb Iran" or has this just creepy-maniacal like evil laugh-and I just see something in him that does seem evil.

So glad I'm not a Republican...reap what ya sow.