I respectfully disagree with you on HRC.

She had not been taking Q&A from Iowans and was not doing interviews just previous to this incident with the bus. This was after her series of missteps a few weeks ago. She didn't even caucus in Iowa as much as Obama did-not by a long shot.

The press-after being played and used by the politicos (GW especially)are suspicious now-both for all of the secrecy in Wash. and the way everything GW has said has turned out to be a lie.

I imagine that makes them a lot less willing to play the fool and want to be free to ask the questions they want.

Had I been shut out and given the cold-shoulder by HRC or anyone else-I'd be contemptous too.

Hence the silence on the bus-they all knew they were being played. It's not like HRC is a very authentic candidate-making impromptu speeches everywhere.

It's all been very scripted.

Inauthenticity/opportunistism/power/greed can be very easy to spot in people not connected to thier own feelings/thier own skin.

iow; you make the bed you lie in.

the title of Glenns post was about Hil and the mean kids on the bus. So yes what I've said about HRC IS relevant.

HRC did NOT run a good campaign in Iowa (Andrea Mitchell is saying also-and she's very objective to HRC).

She did not caucus as much as others.

Has not done many impromptu interviews.

SCRIPTED.

Midwesterners-having lived in KC for about 6 yrs-are very REAL people. They do not like pretense or inauthenticity. I just don't think most people were aware of the stark contrast between that East Coast (pretentious)V Midwest (down to earth)until this caucus. So while HRC could use the fake Southern accent at an Alabama rally-trying that in Iowa will not work.

I think she's just a reserved person and more comfortable with the facade of the East coast layers and facades that people put up---and that being "real"is a little hard for her. She's not Bill Clinton in that respect-and it showed.

So you can't just show up towards the end of the caucus having done this to the press- like showing up at a classmates house the night before a test and say "hey mind if I study with you, mind if I see your notes?".

You prepare and have a good operation in place to begin with.

in the "fact"(which is really GGs' OPINION) that the open contempt for reporters on HRC amount to infotainment-and GG, you are guilty of being part of the problem in NOT actually doing any posts on positions (HRCs');deciding on "behavior"(an opinion piece)instead.

So this very post could be labeled "infotainment" also, since it's not based on fact and is just the opinion of the writer, written to incite anger against the press. Feels like a Kos diary.

There's fact and there's opinion Glenn-

There's also basic journalism of who, what ,when, where, why?

There's also basic journalism-and I don't think the entire press core could fit on that bus-so I don't think the simplistic generalization of "gushers" like Carlson, is fair to apply to all.

So who was on the bus?

This colums reminds me of a conversation with my mom and John Kerry when she said -she just didn't like him becauase of his hair.

I guess I could have tried to persuade her that gray hair is great. Big hair is great...but at that point I realized the inability to make the distinction between facts about his policy and her OPINION about his hair was futile.

I also happen to like his hair.

(Sorry this "follicletainment" and I don't know if you find it on the oped page or in fact-based news about Kerrys' hair. Maybe I'll start an opposition group to mom in support of Kerrys' hair-(but since one person declared it-it must be so.)

Was there a sign-up sheet for people like me who may not have the same opinion as you, that I was supposed to have signed or read the fine print on? cause I missed it.

Do I need to unionize or perhaps form my own lobby to have a differing opinion here?

I was under the understanding that just like you or LWM can have opinions-other posters can too.

In fact, I still thought there was freedom of speech here too.

Maybe it's my shoes?

Is it my shoes?

Was there a secret handshake I didn't know about?...

I'm all about comfort over looks.

Maybe I'll unionize a group in support of comfy shoes before I enter next time.

But I DO respect your opinion to dislike mine.

WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I'm in such a good mood right now---I LOOOVEE all of your SHOES-even yours LWM. Glenn yours are good too.

WHoooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

Huck and Obama---THANK YOU IOWA!

Comparing Obama to Pat Robertson is like comparing apples and pencils.

That's the point I was making. (confused by your post)

HRC didn't campaign as hard in Iowa, yet HRC tried to show up at the press' bus door, bagels and muffins in tow--to schmooze them, after having snubbed them for many years.

I brought the point up about GW, because I don't agree with Glenn's premise that ALL msm have the same reason for the way they react to HRC--is entirely too simplistic to me. He can't get into the minds of all of those on the bus-so I thought it was presumptive to think that he did.

Lastly, not ALL of the msm, is as bad or "mean"as GG thinks either. Many have awoken to the mistakes of being led through the nose about Iraq and other things. They know GW lies/lied.

Many writers are, in fact, trying to question politicos/GW/Clinton and not give the benefit/not being "gushers". Unfair to label ALL msm "meanies".

If that were true: stories about torture, wiretapping,..

would not have been exposed.

It's all good.

You're shoes are good too.