Yep-Lionel Trilling

Mary McCarthy

Irving Howe

Alfred Kazin

Dwight MacDonald

Clement Greenberg

Harold Rosenberg

Called the NY Intellectuals-Podhertz a member later.

Started in the 40s by writers who all worked for Partisan Review to expose Soviet communism. all started being liberal and Marxist-but then shifted from breaking with Goldwater (being anti-hippy..)to form what is now the neocon movement.

I actually like the idea of nationalizing our oil-and think it would solve alot of problems. Does not mean I'd advocate for drilling in protected lands-but I think there is enough offshore to makeup for that-in conjunction with a plan of other energy technologies.

LWM: Let's see: David Duke

"off the rails"

now "Da jooooz"

I did not say Israel is responsible for 9-11 or where you got that from.

READ please.

I said some Israeli military working in this country were picked up after 911 as having inside info beforehand-and that for some reason, that info was classified.

Fox's words, Brit Humes' actually.

Not conspiracy-these were actual arrests and classification of those arrests.

I can agree with Shooter or others on one point and that does not make me a "wingnut".

The need to put everyone in a neat little sterotype is a Rovian strategy-that you, being a Dem should know better of-and be aware of your own complicity (freewill-WHOOOOOOOOOOOO!)

and behavior in yourself.

The prevention of talking about Israeli involvement in the telecom industry is a good example.

It seems as an American, you would want to make sure that all of the rights/interests/security of Americans were insured-even if that means investigating an ally.

Speaking of off-the rails on the Harman/Bush/torure CIA coverup:

how'd we end up in Venezuela Toto?