Mark Klein was the AT&T employee who first reported the story and was fired by the Telecom. He said that all of the info goes into one large computer in San. Fran.(funny isn't that where Pelosi and Feistein are from?)-the line going into the computer is then spliced so the info from all the calls goes to AT&Ts' computer, then it also goes to a second "secret room on the 6th floor) of AT&T and only NSA has clearance to this room-where the nSA is allowed to intercept the data. This info means ALL calls AT&T recieves go through here-NOT just "terrorists". I've said this before but based on our justice system of "burden of proof" before making arrests-by the govt. is being allowed in Hoover-like form to collect the data before ANY BURDEN OF PROOF IS MADE-MAKING IT ILLEGAL.

I also believe the states have used the info to operate sting operations natiowide in the past-based on this illegal intercepted data-ILLEGALLY-(no burden of proof-that was gained AFTER THE FACT). I also believe the "foreign calls" that GW uses to try to legitimately explain NSA-is actually a private company on foreign soil-where all of the NSA traffic has been directed to. So it's still spying on American citizens-it's just being outsourced like much of the outsourcing to India by Telcos.

I also recently read that a GOP Sen. from Ala.was accused of using info he had obtained through NSA. so it appears that the Dems can't even get any answers about the program-the GOP have already been using it with access given by GW-to information obtained through NSA to be used on political enemies. DUH! Who could see that one coming?

Just today you heard of an outfit that was spying on Bin Laden intercepts-and the WH blew thier cover. Another DUH-is ther really any question now that GW never had any intention of catching O. Bin Forgotten-since it's in the interest of the GOP to keep OBL around to promote more war-and to further play the fear-card.

Looking back at history-if you look at eavesdropping and spying-who have been the ones responsible? The GOP.

From Hoover, to Nixon, to perhaps Reagan stealing Jimmy Carters' speech before the debate...

This being an election year-do you really think it won't be used for political purposes? Oh that's right-we have morons in the Dems we've elected who "trust" that the GOP just would not do that......They can't EVEN get any info about the program or how it is being used....

The Dems are setting themselves up for permanent losses in Govt.-they are essentially rolling over and letting the WH further ist's own agenda-by being able to cherry-pick intel for their own purpose-and as in teh OBL video intercept-to counter any "truth" by stopping it before it even becomes common knowledge by the public.

Do you really think there is anyone in the US in their right mind who trust this WH to do what is right?

I don't.

ousourced privatization.

It's been done with the military-where both parties of Congress have been bought by the military complex. this is yet but one more phase of it. By outsourcing the intel-only the WH is privy to the info-so they can search to thier hearts content to find a reason to sell the american public more war.

btw notice hwo most of thsoe charges against the men in the UK that the US pushed them to intercept-Have been dropped. Very little of any charges stuck-the US-intel bungled it.

Look at the media and how intertwined it is to the military comlpex now-and the number of conservative buffoons on the air to push right-wing "intel" crap-to play the terrorrism card further.

Look at the way Blackwater has been outsourced in the place of our own military. With Blackwater having no oversight-the intercepted NSA "intel" could be used to disperse a mercenary army anywhere in the world without any legal ramifications-since they do not follow the Armed forces laws.

So this WH is essetially trying to remake the entire Constitution obsolete-and are replacing it with thier own "constittution" based solely on their flimsy Yoo-cited Executive Orders.

Next look at what GW said just the other day about Schip.

He said he thought it was "socialized medicine" and that privatization is the way to go.

Look also, at the fact that prosecuting White-collar crime is now nonexistent.

All of these things make sense when you think of what is being done.

While people are beginning to understand the corporatization

of the US-I don't think they realize how fast and how complicit the Dems are in this corruption as well. Wait for primarying? I don't think there is that much time. The overwhelming amount of corruption leaves many to throw thier hands up-but it CAN be undone. We need to stay focused on what they are doing.

They are setting the prices for nobid contracts for thier buddies in every branch of privatized govt.-which is probably consolidated by investors into groups like Cerberus and others.

So the Pres can jsut not budget $$$ for any social programs and divert the $$$ elsewhere to thier privatized areas. also notice how just the other day-the fed. deficit was extended-I believe for the purpose of the miltary complex to go on running up future war tabs and paying cronies contracts-who then divert some funds to offshore hidden acccounts-with the GOP giving dummy "special interest" names to.

So all of this privatization being done by GW with no oversight-is to further line their own pockets with US treasury money-to LOOT it would be a better term.

The Dems stupidly think they will be able to get in on the action-but of course-even THEY will get phased out eventually, as any 2-party system will be gone.